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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947.

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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the smoke radio

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for

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how you doing today is wednesday

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september 8th 2021

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252-day into the new year

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only 123 days left we are live from a

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bunker somewhere in the middle of

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undisclosed location but it is beautiful

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yeah the echo

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is gone i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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changer network and kg are a the planet

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what is cracking

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oh i don't know who's running the show

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tonight i don't know if it's race or

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very excited about tonight's show

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very special guest dr matthew johnson

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in the show okay but the images hashtag

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revelations at the pasadena

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busy weekend and on monday another week

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today is already wednesday right okay so

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next weekend september 17th through the

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19th i will be hosting the conscious

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life expo at the lax hilton this is an

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use the promo code jimmy

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to ride in the get the tea

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that's right our sponsor ronnie mcmullen

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film extraordinary the revelations there

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little details you know about my

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and and all the things that i need

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right espresso machine you know that

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kind of stuff uh so once those details

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very excited about this too as well okay

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there you go follow me on twitter at

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discussing will be posted up

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with uh and and the big stuff that is

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also close but the most powerful tool

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planetary radar that's what it's called

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then scientists snagged much more

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detailed observations of a much bigger

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on august 24th it is called 2016 aj 163

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and it's big it's an asteroid that

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measured

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three quarters of a mile across that's

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insane

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know it's it's how they shoot and how

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they image

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these asteroids that is so interesting

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for me and you can go look it up the

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planetary radar system you know shooting

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photons i think that's how they you know

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they bounce back

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and you capture those grainy images

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that's because those are individual

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right okay so anyway

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the

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three-quarter mile across asteroid

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uh 2016 aj193 you look at this and you

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just think to yourself

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you know almost a mile

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across

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and this stuff is just cruising by our

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planet all the time

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man we need to be really thankful for

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the hard work of all of those

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astronomers all right i'm going to talk

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more about this in just a bit but

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according to a new report

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facebook's encrypted messaging service

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whatsapp

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isn't as private as it claims

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the popular chat app which brags about

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its privacy features

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says parents facebook can't read

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messages sent between users that's their

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claim but an extensive report by

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propublica released yesterday claims

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that facebook is paying more than 1 000

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contract workers around the world to

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read through and moderate whatsapp

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messages that are supposedly private

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or encrypted

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facebook also reportedly shares certain

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private data with law enforcement

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agencies such as the u.s department of

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justice

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the revelation comes after facebook boss

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mark zuckerberg

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has repeatedly said that whatsapp

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messages

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are not seen by the company

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well we know now

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that that is a big bowl

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of bs

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now in response to the report

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facebook acknowledged that those

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contractors spend their days sifting

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through content that whatsapp users and

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the service's own

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algorithms keyword

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flag

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and they often include everything from

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fraud

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child porn to potential terrorist

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plotting

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yeah

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do you use whatsapp

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do you use an encrypted

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messaging app of any kind

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i'll talk more about this in just a

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minute let's get this show cracking

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happy birthday to today

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i like her too

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pink

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is 42.

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martin friedman

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star of one of my favorite films the

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hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy a film

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that

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if it's on if it's streaming if it pops

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up i watch it

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i'll pick it up from whenever hopefully

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the beginning and watch it to the end it

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is an excellent film well martin freeman

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today

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is 50.

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yes

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is 50.

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scream

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i'm just saying i i had to do it i had

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yes

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chumley today is 39. bassist will lee i

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can't believe this bassist will lee

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is 71 you remember him from the late

379
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show with david letterman i was in

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manhattan

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uh for a week and i was with

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i was with a drummer oh i was with omar

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akin

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and he took me one night to a nightclub

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i can't

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my memory was it was

387
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upstairs a few stories up to go see will

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lee and his band

389
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and uh it was incredible but will lee

390
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tonight today is 71.

391
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uh

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wild mick brown the one and only the

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drummer for docking

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today docking rhymes with rockin mick

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brown today is 65

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and one of my old friends old dear

397
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friends

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keyboard player guitarist and producer

399
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michael lardy today is 63. did all those

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albums with great white

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wrote all those songs produced the

402
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albums and was the keyboard player and

403
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and uh guitarist uh two as well michael

404
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lardy today 63 years old

405
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our dead guy's birthday today is moment

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of silence please

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benjamin orr

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1947 died in the year 2000 at the age of

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53 benjamin was the bassist co-founder

410
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and co-lead vocalist of the cars

411
00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:03,039
he sang lead vocals on several of their

412
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biggest hits including

413
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just what i needed

414
00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:10,720
let's go i love that song and of course

415
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drive

416
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in 1976 benjamin rick ocasic greg houcks

417
00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:18,000
elliott easton and drummer david

418
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robinson formed the cars

419
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in april 2000 he was diagnosed with

420
00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:25,360
pancreatic cancer and hospitalized

421
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and then six months later

422
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benjamin died at home in atlanta on

423
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october 3rd

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2000 at the age of 53. happy birthday

425
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:39,760
benjamin on this day in history otd

426
00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:42,000
1504

427
00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:46,080
michelangelo's masterpiece his statue of

428
00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:48,720
david is unveiled to the public in

429
00:19:54,470 --> 00:19:52,240
florence italy it was 17 feet tall

430
00:19:57,750 --> 00:19:54,480
carved from a single piece of white

431
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:57,760
carrera marble and took three years to

432
00:20:01,350 --> 00:19:59,280
complete

433
00:20:04,390 --> 00:20:01,360
fader fact

434
00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:04,400
harrison ford and you remember this

435
00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:06,559
harrison ford

436
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:13,919
empire strikes back because

437
00:20:18,549 --> 00:20:16,240
unlike carrie fisher

438
00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:18,559
and mark hamill

439
00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:21,280
ford only signed on

440
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,280
for two films

441
00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:25,520
that's right

442
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:28,159
lucas didn't know he was coming back

443
00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:29,280
that's right

444
00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:32,320
and indiana jones was a huge success and

445
00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:35,520
it was like you know did harrison

446
00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:38,240
did he need star wars

447
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:41,360
right think about that so he froze him

448
00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:43,120
took him out of the action and then

449
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:46,480
later you can unfreeze him right

450
00:20:51,909 --> 00:20:49,200
pretty smart tonight we welcome very

451
00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:51,919
special guest dr matthew johnson

452
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:53,760
joining us for the first time we are

453
00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:56,000
going to be discussing the bigfoot

454
00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:58,480
reality all night tonight and tomorrow

455
00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:00,159
night's another fader night with open

456
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:02,880
lines all night long

457
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:05,280
now it's time for me to hit this

458
00:21:13,750 --> 00:21:12,110
oh man

459
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,760
rivermoonwellness.com the links are over

460
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:15,840
at jimmychurchradio.com you got to get

461
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:18,000
some of this you got to get one of these

462
00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:21,520
bags sent to you in the mail

463
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:24,640
you've got to get one of these delivered

464
00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:25,919
it's just

465
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:28,480
oh you don't even know

466
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:30,720
you don't you know i've got backup

467
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:33,039
coffee if i ever run out of river moon

468
00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:34,799
i've got backup coffee and it's all good

469
00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:37,280
i buy expensive coffee i like you know

470
00:21:42,230 --> 00:21:38,720
my coffee

471
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:42,240
and and once in a while you know

472
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:45,440
i have to and then the

473
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:47,919
the fade to black blend shipment comes

474
00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:50,000
and i get to get back to what's real and

475
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:53,200
then i take that sip of river moon and i

476
00:21:57,029 --> 00:21:55,360
just realize how great this coffee is

477
00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:57,039
you should do the same thing whatever

478
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:58,799
your favorite coffee is i don't care

479
00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:01,039
what it is the thing that you that can't

480
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:04,159
be topped right that coffee

481
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,400
get some fade to black blend

482
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:08,480
and just go back to back

483
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:17,830
i like my coffee doc

484
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:19,440
all right

485
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:20,480
man

486
00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:22,880
i i just talk too much

487
00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:25,039
i need you know what uh two nights ago

488
00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:26,799
on the show

489
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:29,039
i spent the whole show just yapping

490
00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:32,480
that was so much fun three hours of just

491
00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:34,159
yapping

492
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and

493
00:22:40,310 --> 00:22:38,080
i didn't run out of gas

494
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:40,320
and i really enjoyed it and and and i

495
00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:42,720
guess you guys did too most of you

496
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:45,280
um i got to do that more often i i just

497
00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:48,400
need to vent i need the time to do that

498
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:50,000
and uh i really enjoyed it the other

499
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,000
night but um

500
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:54,400
anyway where am i at oh oh so i was

501
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:56,320
talking about whatsapp

502
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:57,840
you know the news is broke about

503
00:23:01,590 --> 00:23:00,400
facebook reading your whatsapp private

504
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:01,600
texts

505
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:02,640
yeah

506
00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:04,880
it's supposed to be encrypted which on

507
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:07,840
the surface means that it's

508
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:10,080
encrypted right

509
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:12,240
scrambled private

510
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:14,159
and only you and the person on the other

511
00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:16,640
end can read it right

512
00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:18,080
well

513
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:20,159
not so fast

514
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:22,320
it has now been revealed and confirmed

515
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:24,559
by facebook

516
00:23:35,830 --> 00:23:33,110
if a whatsapp user flags a text

517
00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:35,840
they can send it to whatsapp security

518
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:39,520
who then takes that last message

519
00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:43,760
and can then read the previous

520
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:46,000
four messages or text

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00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:48,640
and the next four

522
00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:51,440
that follow that's right they can

523
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:54,720
unscramble anything they want

524
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:57,520
nothing is really encrypted

525
00:24:02,870 --> 00:23:59,600
it's just encrypted for someone who may

526
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:02,880
try to intercept your messages

527
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:04,640
but law enforcement the justice

528
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:07,039
department any agency or facebook

529
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:10,080
themselves can and do

530
00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:11,200
read

531
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:13,440
your messages

532
00:24:17,590 --> 00:24:16,080
now let's back up a bit

533
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:17,600
to back when these different apps you

534
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:21,039
know like signal for instance 3m

535
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:24,960
telegram silent phone wire wicker viper

536
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:26,000
dust

537
00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:28,000
the list is long

538
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,159
started to make the news and i thought

539
00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:32,400
back then that any criminal or group

540
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:35,600
that needed to get things done privately

541
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:38,080
that these apps are giving them the

542
00:24:42,789 --> 00:24:40,400
tools that they need

543
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:42,799
and i was kind of confused right how's

544
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:44,159
this possible

545
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:46,159
and i didn't say much about it because i

546
00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:48,480
didn't want to advertise these services

547
00:24:53,430 --> 00:24:51,679
to the dark world that surrounds us but

548
00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:53,440
there was another reason i didn't bring

549
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:54,799
it up

550
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:57,760
and that is this

551
00:25:01,830 --> 00:24:59,679
those agencies

552
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:01,840
national and international law

553
00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:03,440
enforcement

554
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:06,159
want those criminal elements to use

555
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:07,919
these apps

556
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:10,080
because they have all the access they

557
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:12,799
need to read everything the dark world

558
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:14,960
is texting to each other

559
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:16,960
of course

560
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:18,559
that's right

561
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:19,840
now

562
00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:21,760
this makes all the sense in the world

563
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:24,080
and trust me

564
00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:25,440
this

565
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:27,760
is exactly what's going on

566
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:30,159
when pro publica released their report

567
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:32,799
on facebook yesterday i was like well

568
00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:37,669
who was really surprised here

569
00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:40,720
now a headline that reads you know quote

570
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:42,559
facebook is reading your encrypted

571
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:45,840
whatsapp messages end quote well that's

572
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:48,640
going to get some clicks and it should

573
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:51,200
and people should be me made aware you

574
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:52,720
know i guess but

575
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the criminals

576
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are made aware too

577
00:26:02,950 --> 00:25:59,600
so what about signal threama telegram

578
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:02,960
silent home wire wicker viber and dust

579
00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:05,120
does law enforcement and the parent

580
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:07,360
companies of these apps have access to

581
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:09,360
your messages

582
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:11,360
the short answer is

583
00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:13,919
of course they do

584
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:15,679
there is no way

585
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:18,080
that commercially available private

586
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,880
encrypted messaging apps available in an

587
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app store

588
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:25,679
are uncrackable unbreakable

589
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:29,039
it's just not the way the world works

590
00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:32,080
and i bet if you chase the money

591
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:34,240
and the development of some of these

592
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:36,240
products you might find that it's the

593
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agencies themselves that are the source

594
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of the code

595
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seriously

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again as it should be

597
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this is the way the world works it's

598
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been like this throughout history this

599
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isn't anything modern

600
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imagine this

601
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a horrible terrorist act happens

602
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death destruction

603
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:02,080
and we find out that the terrorists used

604
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an app that they got from the google

605
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store

606
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right and they traded maps photos text

607
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:10,720
and planned everything out on their

608
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:13,360
android phones an app that was so

609
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encrypted that nobody knew

610
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,480
think about those headlines

611
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:20,480
the outrage

612
00:27:23,110 --> 00:27:21,360
well

613
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:23,120
you haven't heard about this scenario

614
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:25,520
because there are no apps that run this

615
00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:26,320
way

616
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:29,679
so you can be mad as hell that facebook

617
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can read your whatsapp messages your

618
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secret peach cobbler recipe handed down

619
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for generations and yeah a secret

620
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contractor agent may just cook it and

621
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:43,039
share it with their family one day but

622
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:46,320
the lesson here is a clear one

623
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don't message or text anything that you

624
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don't want anyone to see or read

625
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ever

626
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because someone

627
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somewhere

628
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can

629
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and will

630
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read it i'm your host jimmy church this

631
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is fade to black tonight dr matthew

632
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johnson joins us for the first time

633
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we are going to be discussing

634
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the bigfoot reality we've got a lot of

635
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images we're going to be posting up

636
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tonight

637
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that will be on twitter

638
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f2b

639
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right there in the sandbox we also have

640
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some audio that he has captured and we

641
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will be playing that tonight live during

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the show get ready this is a big show i

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am very excited about what is about to

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go down and then tomorrow night of

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course is fader night with open lines

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all night long i'm your host jimmy

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preparedness plan you should too

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doesn't it especially now so go to

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745
00:33:23,590 --> 00:33:19,039
that's prepare with jimmy.com there's no

746
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,630
nine out of ten geneticists agree

747
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:31,029
fade to black

748
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:32,399
is not

749
00:33:38,110 --> 00:33:35,039
your father's radio show

750
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:38,120
on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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753
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:44,320
hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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what's up i'm chris what up this

755
00:34:02,110 --> 00:33:54,500
is jimmy church radio

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00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:10,310
[Music]

757
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:12,149
all right welcome back fade to black i

758
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:14,720
am your host jimmy church

759
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,280
tonight dr matthew johnson joins us for

760
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:19,679
the first time and tomorrow night

761
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:22,399
is fader night open lines all night long

762
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:24,720
and friday i'm taking the day off

763
00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:26,720
saturday i'll be

764
00:34:31,510 --> 00:34:28,879
attending the pasadena international

765
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:31,520
film festival where our new film

766
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:33,760
extraordinary the revelations

767
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:36,000
is doing its world premiere i'm going to

768
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:38,159
do a q a afterwards

769
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:40,720
and i'm not appearing in this film

770
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:43,599
i'm narrating

771
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:45,919
yeah pretty excited about that so that's

772
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,960
going on

773
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:48,639
saturday and then next week we'll kick

774
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:50,720
off another week of fade to black but

775
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,879
tonight it's dr matthew johnson he's

776
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:54,320
here for the first time we're going to

777
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:57,440
be discussing his book bigfoot a 50-year

778
00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:59,119
journey come full circle i've talked

779
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:01,839
about this book many times on the air

780
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:03,680
and what he has discovered about the

781
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,200
reality of the phenomenon in july 2000

782
00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:09,359
dr johnson and his family encountered a

783
00:35:14,470 --> 00:35:11,839
bigfoot on a mountain above the oregon

784
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:14,480
caves national park since then he has

785
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:16,960
spent 21 years pursuing the bigfoot

786
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:19,200
forest people with persistence and

787
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:22,480
relentless commitment he transitioned

788
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,359
from an aggressive old-school paparazzi

789
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:27,520
money shot researcher we're going to

790
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:29,520
discuss all of that tonight

791
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:34,160
to a habituator and onto interactionists

792
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:36,000
what does all of this mean well just

793
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:37,200
stay right there

794
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:40,320
he is a licensed clinical psychologist

795
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,480
his end goal is to eliminate the social

796
00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:44,400
taboo that forbids people from talking

797
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:46,960
about sasquatch and the associated

798
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:50,000
social stigma which labels people as

799
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:52,960
like me crazy and if they actually go

800
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:55,920
public with their report his website

801
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:56,800
which we have over at

802
00:36:01,390 --> 00:35:59,200
jimmychurchradio.com i've got got it up

803
00:36:02,950 --> 00:36:01,400
in a twitter too as well as

804
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:02,960
genu.com

805
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,640
and the link to his book is also up on

806
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:08,480
our social media and i would like to

807
00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:09,760
welcome for the first time to fade to

808
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:12,079
black dr matthew johnson matthew good

809
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:14,160
evening my friend how are you

810
00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:16,240
jimmy thank you for having me on your

811
00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:20,160
show i am a fade to black virgin

812
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,040
but

813
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:23,359
i'm looking forward to many more

814
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:25,040
opportunities to talk with you in the

815
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:28,160
future yeah and and you are a virgin and

816
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:31,680
which means you get the first time guest

817
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:33,359
disclaimer

818
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:36,240
yeah okay so here it is

819
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:38,480
it's just you and i sitting on my couch

820
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:40,480
having a conversation as friends and

821
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:42,880
where that conversation starts it starts

822
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:44,880
where it ends it ends but we're going to

823
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,599
end his friends there you go you ready

824
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:49,200
and you're already on you're on your

825
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:51,440
couch you know so

826
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:54,400
i am on my couch normally my patients

827
00:36:58,470 --> 00:36:56,000
sit on this couch

828
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:58,480
but i decided to give it a shot

829
00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:00,480
okay well you know what that's

830
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,320
interesting because now the roles are a

831
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:04,640
little bit reversed tonight

832
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:06,400
you're my bigfoot therapist yeah i'm

833
00:37:13,589 --> 00:37:09,359
your bigfoot therapist now um

834
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:13,599
the book um and and i said this uh many

835
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:17,040
times on the show the book changed me

836
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:19,119
but it didn't

837
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:22,400
in that over the years

838
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:26,240
i have changed my perspective on bigfoot

839
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:28,560
and i had my own reasons for doing that

840
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:30,800
you and i talked about this uh quite a

841
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:33,680
bit uh over the last couple of weeks but

842
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:36,720
i was i was nudging in that direction

843
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:39,599
because i was just following

844
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:42,240
the evidence of my own experiences

845
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:43,280
and

846
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:47,040
uh i had questioned i remember many

847
00:37:49,829 --> 00:37:48,960
years this is probably 10 years ago i

848
00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:49,839
had uh

849
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:51,920
jeffrey meldrum on the show

850
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:54,240
and i told i i told him then i said look

851
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:57,839
man i'm a skeptic right i am way on the

852
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:59,839
other side i'm not in the middle

853
00:38:03,670 --> 00:38:01,760
way on the other side of this and these

854
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:03,680
are my reasons you know whatever you

855
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:06,880
know no bodies no dna no no this and no

856
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:09,040
no photograph aside from the patterson

857
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:10,000
film

858
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:13,280
which is where i become a hypocrite i'm

859
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:16,160
like a paradox in my own opinion

860
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:19,760
in that i have stated uh matthew

861
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:23,520
that had the ufo community

862
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,920
had a ufo film as definitive as the

863
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:29,520
gimlin film

864
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:32,079
it would be case closed on the ufo

865
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:35,280
subject right okay i say those things

866
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:36,480
but yet

867
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:38,880
the the patterson gimlin film wasn't

868
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:42,000
enough to push me in that direction so i

869
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:44,320
was like i'm a hypocrite

870
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,520
so um and like the definition of

871
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:49,440
hypocrite by me making that statement

872
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:52,560
that's clearly uh my position on this so

873
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:54,560
i've gone from

874
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:57,119
that and swung over and then i read your

875
00:39:01,109 --> 00:38:58,320
book

876
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:01,119
and i was like this is this is

877
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:03,280
this makes more sense to me than

878
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:04,720
anything else

879
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:07,760
that um that i need to collect right now

880
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,880
and try to make up my own mind this book

881
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:12,960
does it well

882
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:15,200
the book

883
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:16,160
you

884
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:19,920
right here

885
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:22,320
it's tough for people to

886
00:39:26,829 --> 00:39:24,720
to explain their

887
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:26,839
the changing of the guard in their

888
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:29,119
mindset right and you've got to come

889
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:30,560
clean you've got to come out of the

890
00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:32,480
closet you have to

891
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:35,839
then go this is why i am here and i used

892
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:37,440
to be here

893
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:40,480
was it an easy book to write and and

894
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:46,950
well um

895
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:49,119
the ultimate reason for writing the book

896
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:52,640
was public education and

897
00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:53,760
um

898
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:56,560
because i was asked to write the book by

899
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:58,640
zorth the leader of the council of 12

900
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:00,880
which sounds pretty crazy coming from

901
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:02,320
the psychologist

902
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:03,760
but um

903
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:05,760
as far as was it difficult to write the

904
00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:06,640
book

905
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:09,440
it actually took me three weeks to write

906
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:10,720
the book

907
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:12,400
it just came out

908
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:23,109
the title um which which i love right a

909
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:26,079
50-year journey come full circle and by

910
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:28,800
the time you're finished as a reader and

911
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,359
you're finished uh reading the book

912
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:33,839
you then understand what that actually

913
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:35,599
means and

914
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:37,680
and i want to get into the council of

915
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:40,079
12. uh i've talked about that before on

916
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:41,200
the show

917
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:43,520
that is also very important

918
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:45,760
but when you say

919
00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:48,079
when you describe yourself as you know

920
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:50,880
the popular witch i think we all

921
00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:52,880
uh have been waiting for that definitive

922
00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:55,440
photograph right that definitive money

923
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:58,160
shot you were that guy right

924
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,880
yeah i was that guy was old school

925
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:03,119
matter of fact you know i had some

926
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:06,480
belief before my family and i ran into

927
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:08,079
a bigfoot on the mountain above the

928
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:10,720
oregon caves you know campfire stories

929
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,079
that kind of stuff

930
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:14,160
and then when it actually happened when

931
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:17,599
i saw it you know my whole brain

932
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:19,680
kind of just shattered

933
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:22,640
and and i kind of felt my brain reboot

934
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:25,599
like what the heck is this it's real

935
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:28,160
and and then i had to deal with what i

936
00:41:32,150 --> 00:41:30,400
kept secret for 10 years i didn't tell

937
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:32,160
my wife i didn't tell anybody for 10

938
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:33,440
years

939
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:35,839
what i saw

940
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:37,119
until

941
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:39,599
i spoke at a conference in southern

942
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:40,960
oregon

943
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:42,560
and

944
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,920
a gentleman

945
00:41:46,870 --> 00:41:45,440
approached me

946
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:46,880
afterwards

947
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:48,960
after lunch and said

948
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,079
you know

949
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:52,400
what really happened up on the mountain

950
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:54,480
that day

951
00:41:58,390 --> 00:41:55,920
it was like

952
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:58,400
he was looking into my eyes and into my

953
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:00,880
soul and it was like crap i can't keep

954
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:03,680
this secret anymore so i said um i need

955
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:06,560
to talk with cynthia at that time she

956
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:09,839
was my fiance she's my wife now

957
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:12,000
but um i said i have to tell her first

958
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:13,440
and then i'll tell you

959
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:16,160
so i told her and then he came out and

960
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:19,359
um i told him what happened

961
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:21,839
and what happened was you know i i

962
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:23,839
it was tough enough for me to be a

963
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:26,160
psychologist and private practice

964
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:30,400
telling the world i saw bigfoot

965
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:33,359
but to add on top of that

966
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:36,800
i saw a bigfoot uncloak

967
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:38,640
out of nowhere

968
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:40,880
then walk behind the tree

969
00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:43,760
and then when i ran down to the trail to

970
00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:45,680
get my family out of there

971
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,119
he looks at me and he cloaks again

972
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:51,839
you know i couldn't share that and i had

973
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:53,119
difficulty

974
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:54,480
fathoming

975
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:56,319
how i was going to get my family off

976
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:58,400
that mountain alive because not only was

977
00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:59,680
this thing

978
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:01,599
so much bigger than me but it could

979
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,359
disappear and reappear

980
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,000
we were screwed and i was pretty certain

981
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:08,160
at that time we were dead but i didn't

982
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:09,920
know then what i know now and if i knew

983
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,400
then what i know now i would have

984
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:14,240
you know walked over the tree and said

985
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:17,280
yo what up yeah exactly

986
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:19,359
but i didn't know then what i know now

987
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:20,800
now

988
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:22,079
one of the

989
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:22,960
uh

990
00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:25,760
the best points at this at this part of

991
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:28,000
the conversation that you're making

992
00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:30,079
is that you're a psychologist

993
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:33,440
and you're not supposed to dip your toe

994
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:35,760
in this kind of reality and have a

995
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:38,800
public conversation about it that's that

996
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:41,680
is that something that you were worried

997
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:43,599
about when you know coming out with this

998
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,200
kind of information

999
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:47,839
about your career and the way that your

1000
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:50,480
your peers around you would

1001
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:52,720
look at you and maybe discuss behind

1002
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:55,520
your back i was certainly concerned

1003
00:44:01,150 --> 00:43:59,119
about that but the following spring so

1004
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:01,160
it would have been the spring of

1005
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:03,920
2001 i was attending the oregon

1006
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:05,920
psychological association spring

1007
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:08,880
conference in portland oregon and on the

1008
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,200
president of the opa at that time we're

1009
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:13,680
in this room with over close to 400

1010
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:15,839
people psychologists

1011
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:18,079
the president of the opa goes is dr

1012
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:21,040
matthew johnson in the room will dr

1013
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:22,880
matthew johnson please

1014
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:24,960
stand up

1015
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,440
and i'm like

1016
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:29,520
i don't want to stand up

1017
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:31,200
and um

1018
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:33,680
people are pushing me from behind kindly

1019
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:35,760
saying stand up he's calling you stand

1020
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,720
up

1021
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:38,480
so i'm going

1022
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:41,119
this is not going to be good and i stand

1023
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,280
up and he goes

1024
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:45,280
ladies and gentlemen i would like to

1025
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:46,800
introduce to you

1026
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:49,440
the psychologist who saw bigfoot with

1027
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:50,720
his family

1028
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:52,480
and was brave enough

1029
00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:57,190
and then i got

1030
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:59,280
a standing ovation

1031
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:01,520
as it should be right

1032
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:04,880
and and and so how after that

1033
00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:05,839
um

1034
00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:08,720
the there's relief the the pressure

1035
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:10,880
right is is off

1036
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:11,920
um

1037
00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:14,319
your colleagues uh what did they have to

1038
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:15,040
say

1039
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:17,119
well i had a few psychologists come up

1040
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:18,400
to me afterwards

1041
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,720
told me about their own encounters oh

1042
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:22,560
that's what i'm talking about

1043
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:24,880
and you know not only with bigfoot but

1044
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:27,760
ufos and ghosts and

1045
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:31,280
it was like okay so now also i'm this

1046
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:33,920
magnet for everyone to come to

1047
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:36,000
about all these different things and i

1048
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:38,720
even had this one person contact me a

1049
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:41,280
year later saying i've been in therapy

1050
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:44,000
with my psychologist for over a year

1051
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:46,319
talking about my bigfoot encounter which

1052
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:49,119
traumatized me and the psychologist was

1053
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:50,640
saying

1054
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:53,119
well it's just a symbolic representation

1055
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:55,760
of your unresolved fears and anger and

1056
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:58,960
you're manifesting it into this you know

1057
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:01,359
phenomena and a bigfoot and then so i

1058
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:03,839
went into her office and i said where's

1059
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,680
your computer and i typed in your

1060
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:07,680
website turn it around and showed her

1061
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:09,680
she read it and she said i guess you did

1062
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,839
see bigfoot

1063
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:13,200
the

1064
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:16,960
okay

1065
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:18,319
the

1066
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:21,839
reality side of it i'm talking about

1067
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,040
this this 2d 3d version of it

1068
00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:28,400
that researchers are out there doing um

1069
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:30,400
and i don't i listen to everything i

1070
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:32,000
listen to everybody

1071
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:33,520
uh this is something that we're all

1072
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:34,880
trying to figure out

1073
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:38,160
but there is you know the bigfoot tv

1074
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,640
shows the teams the guys that are out

1075
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:42,960
there and girls uh out there doing

1076
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:44,400
squatching

1077
00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:46,480
and looking for

1078
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,240
tribes a physical side a species that is

1079
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:52,480
just like other species you know a herd

1080
00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:54,640
of elk right and they're out there

1081
00:47:02,069 --> 00:46:57,599
trying to find the panda bear

1082
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:02,079
there's that side of it and and it never

1083
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:04,160
the story doesn't end

1084
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:07,040
right there isn't an ending of that and

1085
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:09,200
i've i've said it a lot and i've got a

1086
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:11,359
lot of friends that do bigfoot shows

1087
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:14,319
but i know the ending of those tv series

1088
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:15,200
right

1089
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:16,640
i know the ending

1090
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:19,280
and uh they never find bigfoot they

1091
00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:20,880
never find bigfoot

1092
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:23,760
um so why is that

1093
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:24,480
why

1094
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:25,520
is

1095
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:30,079
been hit by a car

1096
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:32,800
you know there isn't any you know

1097
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,960
it just it's just not there you know a

1098
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:36,160
carcass

1099
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:38,640
um why is that

1100
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:41,200
okay um

1101
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:43,839
i was old school for 10 years i i map

1102
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:46,640
money maker bfro took me under his wing

1103
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:49,760
initially um and taught me a lot i knew

1104
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:52,160
nothing about the whole bigfooting thing

1105
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:55,440
so i definitely got immersed in the old

1106
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:57,599
school philosophy of their descent of

1107
00:48:02,309 --> 00:47:59,680
the gigantopithecus

1108
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,319
which they based giganopithicus on one

1109
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:04,800
tooth they found in a chinese cave

1110
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:06,480
and um

1111
00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:08,559
and it's just a matter of time and you

1112
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:10,079
know getting out there getting out there

1113
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:11,440
getting out there and we're gonna find

1114
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:12,160
them

1115
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:13,440
and um

1116
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:14,240
so

1117
00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:16,880
after 10 years of doing that

1118
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:19,119
and um then thinking it through okay

1119
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:21,280
yeah we got some wood knocks back we got

1120
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:22,960
some tracks

1121
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,800
we got some screams

1122
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:26,640
we even had them coming up to our tents

1123
00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:27,599
at night

1124
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:29,839
um

1125
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:30,559
but

1126
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:33,119
nothing more substantial than that

1127
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:34,720
um

1128
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:36,319
and i thought okay

1129
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:38,480
so like peter burns been doing this for

1130
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:39,760
50 years

1131
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:42,240
other people have been out there for 20

1132
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:44,319
30 years doing this

1133
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,720
and they're not finding bigfoot and all

1134
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:48,800
they're doing am i going to do this for

1135
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:51,920
another 10 20 30 years 40 years

1136
00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:55,440
of just more foot cast and and some wood

1137
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:58,000
knocks and some screams no no that's not

1138
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:00,839
good enough for me i want personal

1139
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:04,480
interaction and and so that's when i

1140
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:06,319
switched because

1141
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:09,119
nobody's finding bigfoot

1142
00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:10,880
and and this

1143
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:13,520
descendant of gigantopithecus theory

1144
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:16,960
isn't holding any water and there's no

1145
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:19,040
way that you can look at all these other

1146
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:22,960
people spending 20 30 40 years 50 years

1147
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:25,200
out there not finding anything

1148
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:27,359
and be silly enough to keep smacking

1149
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:29,440
your head against the brick wall

1150
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:31,359
doing the same thing over and over and

1151
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:33,760
over again because insanity is defined

1152
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:36,000
as doing the same thing over and over

1153
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:38,160
again and expecting different results

1154
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:39,760
but yet they keep doing it because

1155
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:42,559
that's what everybody's doing so me

1156
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:44,480
being a psychologist and a problem

1157
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,200
solver decided got to do something

1158
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:49,040
different so then i started looking at

1159
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:51,520
the north american indians and they

1160
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:53,920
discussed them as being a people a

1161
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:56,079
forest people spirits of the mountains

1162
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:58,880
etc and i decided you know what i got to

1163
00:50:02,069 --> 00:50:00,880
change things up i got to approach this

1164
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:02,079
differently

1165
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:03,760
so i stopped throwing the food on the

1166
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,680
ground and bait piles and i started

1167
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:07,200
putting them

1168
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:10,000
in on stainless steel dog food bowls and

1169
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:11,520
offering gifts

1170
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:13,440
to them i changed my

1171
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,520
way i was viewing them and interacting

1172
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:17,280
with them and started treating them with

1173
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:19,440
respect instead of a dumb giant mountain

1174
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:20,240
ape

1175
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,480
and um they kind of tested me for in

1176
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:24,480
watching me for a year

1177
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:28,079
before they started taking my food

1178
00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,640
and leaving fingerprints and hand prints

1179
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,480
on the bowls

1180
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:34,720
and they weren't mine because i used

1181
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:36,960
surgical gloves cleaned the bowls put

1182
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:40,400
the food in put the food out at sunset

1183
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:43,280
pick the food up at sunrise with

1184
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:46,559
um surgical gloves on and there were

1185
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:48,079
hand prints and fingerprints on the

1186
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:49,359
bulls

1187
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:50,720
and they weren't mine they weren't

1188
00:50:54,950 --> 00:50:52,960
anybody else in the group and so then we

1189
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:54,960
started getting audio recordings they

1190
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:57,280
have a spoken language and then people

1191
00:51:01,190 --> 00:50:59,200
are in denial about that because you

1192
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:01,200
know no no they can't have a spoken

1193
00:51:04,829 --> 00:51:03,440
language or a dumb giant mountain they

1194
00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:04,839
you know they're descendants of

1195
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:06,960
gigantopithecus and i even had one guy

1196
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:10,000
come after me lots of trolls and haters

1197
00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:12,800
saying that it it had to have been some

1198
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:15,680
lost indian tribe in southern oregon

1199
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:17,760
that i recorded the vocal language

1200
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:18,880
because

1201
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,359
bigfoot doesn't have a spoken language

1202
00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:23,760
so it has to be a lost indian tribe in

1203
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:25,599
southern oregon that nobody has ever

1204
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:27,040
discovered

1205
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:29,839
i mean that's how silly it gets

1206
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:31,680
the um

1207
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:34,640
the other part of this and i want to

1208
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:37,440
discuss this you know quite directly

1209
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:38,960
there are

1210
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:43,680
lots of claims of dna being recovered

1211
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,079
and analyzed

1212
00:51:49,349 --> 00:51:48,480
let's just start right there has there

1213
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:49,359
been

1214
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:51,760
dna collected

1215
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:52,559
okay

1216
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:54,800
the answer is yes but what most people

1217
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,960
don't know and what i've been taught

1218
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:58,559
over time

1219
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:01,440
being able to communicate with zorth is

1220
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:02,960
that

1221
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:06,800
treycon

1222
00:52:11,510 --> 00:52:09,200
in appearance look bigfoot like but

1223
00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:11,520
they're not the bigfoot forest people

1224
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:14,079
they're not the john new they are a

1225
00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:16,319
separate species that was brought to our

1226
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:19,040
planet a long time ago long before we

1227
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:20,000
were here

1228
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:23,280
to help an alien species mine the planet

1229
00:52:28,470 --> 00:52:24,880
and once they were done getting what

1230
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:28,480
they wanted they left the tracon behind

1231
00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:30,079
so

1232
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:32,240
the tracon in order to keep their

1233
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:34,880
species going

1234
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:36,800
over time

1235
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:37,920
have um

1236
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:39,280
occasionally

1237
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:43,040
kidnapped a human male or female

1238
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:46,319
to mate with to try to keep their

1239
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:50,160
species going if a particular family

1240
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:50,960
group

1241
00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:53,599
um didn't have what they needed to keep

1242
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:56,640
the family system going as far as births

1243
00:53:01,109 --> 00:53:00,400
etc so the dna with um

1244
00:53:01,990 --> 00:53:01,119
that

1245
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:02,000
dr

1246
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:03,599
melba ketchum and everybody else

1247
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:07,200
participating in that study has of you

1248
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:08,400
know

1249
00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:10,640
female and then

1250
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:13,359
male unknown is tracon

1251
00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:15,680
not the gen nu not the bigfoot forest

1252
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:16,640
people

1253
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:17,760
and

1254
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:19,920
to kind of contradict a little bit what

1255
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:22,400
you said earlier about no bodies found

1256
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:25,040
well there's the columbus day storm and

1257
00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:27,280
the alleged body found or bodies found

1258
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:29,520
during the columbus day storm or there's

1259
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:31,680
mount st helens erupting in the alleged

1260
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:34,640
bodies found in that

1261
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:37,440
if indeed there were bodies found they

1262
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:40,640
would be treycon bodies and tracon

1263
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:41,599
are

1264
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:42,720
shorter

1265
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:46,079
more like six to eight feet in average

1266
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:47,760
nine at the most

1267
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:48,720
um

1268
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:50,480
they're uglier they're more menacing

1269
00:53:54,549 --> 00:53:52,240
they hide deep in the forest because

1270
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:54,559
they've had a history of of clashing

1271
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:56,960
with the human race and it usually ended

1272
00:54:01,109 --> 00:53:59,119
up with their butts being kicked you

1273
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:01,119
have the the

1274
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:03,440
stories of vikings coming over to north

1275
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:05,280
america and fighting the big hairy

1276
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:08,079
people that would be the treycon

1277
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:10,319
the jean-nude don't engage in those kind

1278
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:12,800
of skirmishes with humans

1279
00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:14,880
the jean knew the bigfoot forest people

1280
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:17,200
are completely different and when they

1281
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:19,200
die they don't leave a body behind and

1282
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:22,160
you can't get dna from a jean nu or a

1283
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,880
bigfoot forest person now can i ask you

1284
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:27,119
that yeah can i ask you this real quick

1285
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:29,119
uh we're gonna take a break in in three

1286
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:30,640
and a half minutes

1287
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:31,920
um

1288
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:35,040
the chromosome count as you know in

1289
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:39,920
humans is 46 pairs primates have 48

1290
00:54:45,589 --> 00:54:42,640
right okay and that's why we can't mate

1291
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:45,599
with with primates we're different

1292
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:48,880
is is the chromosome count with the

1293
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:52,799
tracon 46 chromosome pairs to allow for

1294
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:55,040
mating i don't know i don't know to be

1295
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:56,880
honest i don't i don't know the answer

1296
00:54:59,589 --> 00:54:58,880
to that question but i know they've made

1297
00:55:05,990 --> 00:54:59,599
it

1298
00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:06,000
ostermann who got kidnapped was being

1299
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:08,319
kidnapped to provide

1300
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:11,040
um a mating service

1301
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:14,000
for the daughter so more often than not

1302
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:17,280
women get kidnapped and used they lived

1303
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:19,440
the treycon lived deep in the forest far

1304
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:21,520
away from humanity

1305
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:23,119
and if a lone

1306
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,680
hiker hunter

1307
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:27,760
stumbles across where they live they

1308
00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:29,280
will kill them

1309
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:32,000
eat them scatter their bones they hate

1310
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:33,359
humans

1311
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:36,880
um i have one uh treycon recorded

1312
00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:40,240
saying um human in a very disdain i hate

1313
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,920
your guts want to rip your heart out

1314
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:43,440
type of way

1315
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:45,839
very um

1316
00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:47,040
hateful

1317
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:50,160
now is there okay and uh

1318
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:51,760
that that i mean

1319
00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:53,359
the chromosome pairs would have to be

1320
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:54,559
the same

1321
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:55,760
so

1322
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:58,319
that's that's interesting and

1323
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,880
uh which explains a lot and it separates

1324
00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:02,480
primate again

1325
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:04,799
from what we are talking about here

1326
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,880
um the other thing

1327
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:08,720
and we'll be discussing this a lot

1328
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:10,160
tonight

1329
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:15,200
is that bigfoot seems to come and go

1330
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:18,960
appear and then disappear that's been my

1331
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:20,559
own experience

1332
00:56:26,069 --> 00:56:23,680
and where you see tracks appear

1333
00:56:28,390 --> 00:56:26,079
and then end but there's nothing before

1334
00:56:30,870 --> 00:56:28,400
right and there's nothing after again

1335
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:30,880
what i have seen personally yes exactly

1336
00:56:34,870 --> 00:56:32,640
and and

1337
00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:34,880
does that explain

1338
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:37,359
why you can't you know necessarily track

1339
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:40,000
a bigfoot or know where bigfoot came

1340
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:42,319
from and you could backtrack to

1341
00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:45,280
you know a lair for instance

1342
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:47,119
well um

1343
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:49,839
the genu the bigfoot forest people are

1344
00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:51,680
beings of light

1345
00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:53,839
and um

1346
00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:55,359
they're orbs

1347
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:57,200
and i used to think all this was crap

1348
00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:59,200
and i used to be online putting people

1349
00:57:04,549 --> 00:57:02,160
down who talked this kind of nonsense

1350
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:04,559
i i was an assassin of those people

1351
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:08,160
online i i showed no mercy and now i'm

1352
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:11,760
one of those crazy looms right

1353
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:14,400
and um so they're beans of light and

1354
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:17,359
they can shape shift into physical form

1355
00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:19,920
and they vibrate at a higher frequency

1356
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:21,839
than we do which takes them out of our

1357
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:24,079
visual field of range

1358
00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:25,920
now dogs and cats because they have

1359
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,599
different rods and cones in their eyes

1360
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:29,040
can see them

1361
00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:29,920
okay

1362
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:32,720
cameras can capture them

1363
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:36,240
but our eyes can't see them unless

1364
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,119
we kind of train the eyes over time and

1365
00:57:44,309 --> 00:57:41,520
they have to be kind of dark

1366
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:44,319
it has to be dark out and

1367
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:45,920
you're kind of looking for a shimmering

1368
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:48,720
image like in arnold schwarzenegger's

1369
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:51,200
predator movie when it does its thing

1370
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:52,880
and it kind of you see that shimmering

1371
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:54,559
image in the tree

1372
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:56,240
that's what you're looking for it's

1373
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:58,559
easier to see them though

1374
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:00,960
when it's dark outside to do that

1375
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:02,880
although you can see a shimmering image

1376
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:04,400
in the daylight if you train your eyes

1377
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:05,680
to look for it

1378
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:07,200
but that's how they

1379
00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:09,680
managed to leave footprints

1380
00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:12,160
and then no more footprints because they

1381
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:15,200
shape-shift back into orb form or people

1382
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:18,160
reported seeing them walk toward a tree

1383
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:20,000
and then disappear

1384
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:21,760
it's because they're in orb form and now

1385
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:23,680
they're inside that tree

1386
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:25,440
now uh we're gonna we're gonna circle

1387
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:28,720
back in and and and cover that uh we're

1388
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:30,480
getting a little bit ahead of our skis

1389
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:31,760
because

1390
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,000
uh well you know when we discussed the

1391
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:36,400
council of 12 in that moment and and

1392
00:58:42,069 --> 00:58:38,640
things and how this was revealed

1393
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:42,079
that is that part of this and i want to

1394
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:45,119
arrive at that i don't want to get yeah

1395
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:47,440
you know what i mean it's a it's it's uh

1396
00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:49,680
it's the last chapter in the book so to

1397
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:52,000
speak and i want to get to that we'll do

1398
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:53,440
all of that when we come back after this

1399
00:58:58,789 --> 00:58:56,000
short break our guest tonight dr matthew

1400
00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:58,799
johnson his book and the links to it

1401
00:59:02,549 --> 00:59:01,280
bigfoot a 50-year history journey come

1402
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:02,559
full circle

1403
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:04,640
are right there on social media and our

1404
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:06,960
website i'm your host jimmy church this

1405
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:08,400
is fade to black and the game changer

1406
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:11,040
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1407
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:12,880
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1408
00:59:29,110 --> 00:59:26,540
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1409
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:29,120
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1410
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:37,349
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1411
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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight our

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guest dr matthew johnson

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the bigfoot reality we're going to be

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discussing all of that tonight in the

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next couple of segments

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we will be

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posting some images and that will be up

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in twitter in the live feed

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f2b and we've also got some audio and

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we'll start that in the next segment

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and uh but right now uh i want to

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uh

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have you matthew if you can take me to

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the moment

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of transition right where you went from

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a black and white world

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to full-color panchromatic resonance

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01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:25,280
um what happened

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01:05:30,710 --> 01:05:27,359
well just like when dorothy opened up

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01:05:32,390 --> 01:05:30,720
the door when she landed in oz and

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01:05:34,870 --> 01:05:32,400
it was color

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01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:34,880
or going from blue pill to red pill

1539
01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:37,440
whichever movie analogy you want to use

1540
01:05:42,069 --> 01:05:41,039
sure um my reality just blew off the

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charts

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01:05:50,470 --> 01:05:46,799
the spoken language in may of 2012

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01:05:53,829 --> 01:05:50,480
was you know a biggie for me and

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01:05:55,349 --> 01:05:53,839
reinforced my continuing to

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pursue

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the path i was on the you know trying to

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take

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from

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dr jane goodall's approach to

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habituating with chimps and so i'm like

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okay i gotta habituate with them i have

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to develop their trust

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in in order for them to interact more

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well

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as that progressed um

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we were up this logging road on a

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ridgeline a dead-end logging road that

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dead ended into a cul-de-sac so we had

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brush and trees around the cul-de-sac so

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we were like

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in a fish bowl

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and and the brush and trees allowed them

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to come up to the edge of the cul-de-sac

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silhouettes

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i glow

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more interactions noises grunts

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etc

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and then that eventually

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progressed into um

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some really mind-blowing

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things

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what happened um i don't know how

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well okay

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so

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i'm cynthia and i are up there um my

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fiance now my wife and we had the

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suburban park

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and at that point in time i was still

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sleeping in tents because to be quite

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honest i was still scared to death

1581
01:07:26,710 --> 01:07:21,839
um

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around camp because i wanted things to

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be lit up

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because i was scared to death yeah

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01:07:33,750 --> 01:07:32,319
that's a good call that's a good call

1586
01:07:35,990 --> 01:07:33,760
that's a good one

1587
01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:36,000
so we have this lantern on the suburban

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on the flat part right near the

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windshield

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01:07:43,750 --> 01:07:41,119
because the hood's kind of sloped

1591
01:07:45,589 --> 01:07:43,760
and um we're turning around and walking

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01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:45,599
back toward the suburban

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01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:48,160
and all of a sudden we both see this

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electric lamp

1595
01:07:54,630 --> 01:07:51,760
biff

1596
01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:54,640
it flies 20 feet off

1597
01:08:00,150 --> 01:07:56,960
the hood of the suburban

1598
01:08:02,069 --> 01:08:00,160
but we didn't see anybody do it

1599
01:08:03,029 --> 01:08:02,079
that was a mind blower

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okay

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01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:05,440
and then um i started getting a little

1602
01:08:09,029 --> 01:08:07,599
braver because i started crunching the

1603
01:08:12,710 --> 01:08:09,039
numbers okay

1604
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:12,720
i've been at this for 12 years now

1605
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:16,319
and i've been out there countless days

1606
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:17,520
and nights

1607
01:08:21,669 --> 01:08:19,199
i'm and actually

1608
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:21,679
up to the time that the exodus occurred

1609
01:08:26,630 --> 01:08:24,880
in 2016 i did the math when you add up

1610
01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:26,640
all the days and nights that i had been

1611
01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:27,839
out in the woods

1612
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,640
i was out out of those 16 years when you

1613
01:08:34,630 --> 01:08:32,400
add up all those days i was out there

1614
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:34,640
for four years total

1615
01:08:38,950 --> 01:08:36,799
that's how committed i was and and i was

1616
01:08:41,349 --> 01:08:38,960
driving

1617
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:41,359
a thousand miles round trip

1618
01:08:45,030 --> 01:08:42,560
um

1619
01:08:47,669 --> 01:08:45,040
two times a month

1620
01:08:49,990 --> 01:08:47,679
and forking out hundreds of dollars in

1621
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:50,000
food etc to make this happen that's how

1622
01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:52,480
committed i was so i had to crunch the

1623
01:08:56,789 --> 01:08:54,560
numbers and realize okay i've i've been

1624
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:56,799
out there this long and i've never woken

1625
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:02,390
so i need to kind of like

1626
01:09:08,149 --> 01:09:05,120
let that fear go so i went there by

1627
01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:08,159
myself and i'm in the tent

1628
01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:10,480
pop tent and i'm almost seven feet tall

1629
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:11,920
so my head's hitting the back of the

1630
01:09:15,110 --> 01:09:13,359
tent my feet are hitting the front of

1631
01:09:17,269 --> 01:09:15,120
the tent

1632
01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:17,279
and i have my little toy fox terrier

1633
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:19,600
sleeping on top of the sleeping bag by

1634
01:09:25,349 --> 01:09:22,799
my feet and about 25 feet over by the

1635
01:09:27,189 --> 01:09:25,359
suburban i hear the camp stove lift up

1636
01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:27,199
and set down because i had the garbage

1637
01:09:32,229 --> 01:09:29,920
bag anchored under the camp stove

1638
01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:32,239
and you're not supposed to have garbage

1639
01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:34,640
bags in your camp because that attracts

1640
01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:36,640
bear and other animals

1641
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:38,480
you don't want to attract a camp but i

1642
01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:41,199
intentionally left it there because i

1643
01:09:45,269 --> 01:09:43,040
did want to attract anything and

1644
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:45,279
everything to know what was out there

1645
01:09:57,750 --> 01:09:55,590
this bag being dragged across the dirt

1646
01:09:59,590 --> 01:09:57,760
from 25 feet away towards the tent and

1647
01:10:01,030 --> 01:09:59,600
then all sudden

1648
01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:01,040
whatever it was

1649
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:02,480
dragged the bag in front of the tent

1650
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:05,040
across my feet my dog ran up to my neck

1651
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:07,600
dove inside the sleeping bag it picked

1652
01:10:11,830 --> 01:10:10,000
it up again dragged it in front of my

1653
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:11,840
feet it picked it up a third time

1654
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:13,920
dragged it in front of my feet and it

1655
01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:16,159
wasn't that the garbage bag was so heavy

1656
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:18,000
that he couldn't just carry it he was

1657
01:10:22,149 --> 01:10:20,080
doing it all for effect and then you

1658
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:22,159
hear

1659
01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:23,920
as he drags it away

1660
01:10:30,229 --> 01:10:27,120
next morning i wake up unzip the tent

1661
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:30,239
get out and he had tied the bag to a

1662
01:10:34,709 --> 01:10:32,159
limb on the tree five feet off the

1663
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:36,550
and and so

1664
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:38,400
i got the message he wanted me to come

1665
01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:41,679
out of the tent so then

1666
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:43,840
i did i came out of the tent and i

1667
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:45,120
started sleeping in the back of the

1668
01:10:49,030 --> 01:10:47,520
suburban because that freaked me out and

1669
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:49,040
i'm like okay

1670
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:51,360
let him drag a garbage bag against the

1671
01:10:54,950 --> 01:10:53,040
glass window of the suburban he's not

1672
01:10:56,950 --> 01:10:54,960
going to get me that way right so now

1673
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:56,960
i'm in there my little boy is with me at

1674
01:11:00,630 --> 01:10:58,719
that time he's four or five

1675
01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:00,640
and i wake up around two in the morning

1676
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:02,880
because i thought i heard uh and i fall

1677
01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:04,719
back to sleep well i'm recording every

1678
01:11:09,149 --> 01:11:07,040
night and i do have what i just told you

1679
01:11:10,709 --> 01:11:09,159
recorded and you can go to

1680
01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:10,719
soundcloud.com

1681
01:11:15,590 --> 01:11:12,960
and click on team squatching usa and a

1682
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:15,600
lot of my audio recordings are there for

1683
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:18,640
people to listen to but

1684
01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:20,320
but i checked the recording after the

1685
01:11:25,830 --> 01:11:23,280
suburban incident and i hear him walk up

1686
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:25,840
into camp mess with stuff on the table

1687
01:11:30,149 --> 01:11:28,159
then he walks over to the suburban and

1688
01:11:32,229 --> 01:11:30,159
knocks on the window knock knock knock

1689
01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:32,239
knock and then he walks away

1690
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:34,000
so after that

1691
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:36,000
okay i realize

1692
01:11:40,790 --> 01:11:38,320
he wants me to sleep outside so that's

1693
01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:40,800
when i started sleeping outside on a cot

1694
01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:42,239
under the stars

1695
01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:44,320
no more tents

1696
01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:46,000
no more suburbans

1697
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:48,719
and also no more light because they

1698
01:11:53,350 --> 01:11:50,960
clearly gave me a mind speak message

1699
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:53,360
when he whacked that electric lantern

1700
01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:56,320
off the suburban hood no lights so it's

1701
01:12:01,830 --> 01:11:59,040
like okay in the dark

1702
01:12:03,910 --> 01:12:01,840
fade to black in the dark

1703
01:12:05,430 --> 01:12:03,920
sleep on the cot

1704
01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:05,440
let them come in at night when you're

1705
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:07,520
sleeping

1706
01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:10,239
have you been uh

1707
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:11,920
i know i just want to ask you this quiet

1708
01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:13,760
i kind of know the answer but when

1709
01:12:20,830 --> 01:12:17,120
you're out sleeping uh in the open

1710
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:22,470
um

1711
01:12:28,390 --> 01:12:24,800
pretty amazing now

1712
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:28,400
right um but the first time

1713
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:31,120
um that i was actually awake and

1714
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:33,920
realizing it was going on was a little

1715
01:12:37,350 --> 01:12:35,280
unnerving

1716
01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:37,360
but again i crunched the numbers and

1717
01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:39,760
mentally prepared myself that

1718
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:41,600
i've never woken up dead in all these

1719
01:12:47,189 --> 01:12:44,080
years they're not going to kill me

1720
01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:47,199
they obviously mean me no harm so

1721
01:12:53,270 --> 01:12:50,640
so based on that i i tell anyone that

1722
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:53,280
had gone out with me you are a navy seal

1723
01:12:56,950 --> 01:12:55,760
you're as strong as steel you will not

1724
01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:56,960
freak out

1725
01:13:02,229 --> 01:13:01,040
because they don't want you to be afraid

1726
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,239
and if you

1727
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:04,560
have that startle response and be afraid

1728
01:13:09,430 --> 01:13:07,120
they're going to back away from you

1729
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:09,440
because they don't want to scare you

1730
01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:11,760
and so then you end up sabotaging

1731
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:14,080
yourself and taking away the very thing

1732
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:15,920
that you wanted because you're coming

1733
01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:18,640
out with me for it is interaction

1734
01:13:23,430 --> 01:13:21,040
so um

1735
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:23,440
and to tell you the truth one time you

1736
01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:25,440
know i mean i was so sound asleep i

1737
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:26,880
never knew it happened and didn't find

1738
01:13:31,510 --> 01:13:29,040
out until after the fact that they

1739
01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:31,520
removed a what the cardiovascular

1740
01:13:35,270 --> 01:13:34,080
surgeon would call a big ass dvt from my

1741
01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:35,280
leg

1742
01:13:38,709 --> 01:13:36,960
that went from my groin to my knee and

1743
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:38,719
should have killed me and he you know

1744
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:40,560
when cynthia and i were in the office he

1745
01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:42,640
said a hundred times

1746
01:13:45,910 --> 01:13:44,000
you should be dead you should be dead

1747
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:45,920
this is a miracle nobody ever lives

1748
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:48,239
through this i've been doing this for 25

1749
01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:49,840
years nobody lives through that you

1750
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:51,760
should be dead you should be dead and

1751
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:53,280
you know cynthia and i are looking at

1752
01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:56,000
our watches we we have to go on and we

1753
01:14:00,630 --> 01:13:58,560
dismiss him from the appointment because

1754
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:00,640
it is going on for 45 minutes and he's

1755
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:02,159
not stopping you should be dead you

1756
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:04,400
should be dead i didn't even feel that i

1757
01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:06,480
didn't even know they did that until

1758
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:08,320
until we were back up in the mountains a

1759
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:09,840
couple months later

1760
01:14:13,510 --> 01:14:11,760
and it's july and it was over 100

1761
01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:13,520
degrees every day and cynthia brought

1762
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:15,840
sheets so we could sleep with the flap

1763
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:18,320
the top flap of the sleeping bag open

1764
01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:20,320
with sheets over us to be cooler when

1765
01:14:22,870 --> 01:14:22,159
we're sleeping and keep the bugs off of

1766
01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:22,880
us

1767
01:14:27,189 --> 01:14:24,560
and i'm laying there and then often i

1768
01:14:29,350 --> 01:14:27,199
feel this big hand on my leg going from

1769
01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:29,360
my groin to my knee my groin to my knee

1770
01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:31,520
for about five minutes and then i hear a

1771
01:14:38,229 --> 01:14:34,320
mind speak with the other one

1772
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:38,239
his leg is still okay and i'm like still

1773
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:39,360
okay

1774
01:14:42,709 --> 01:14:40,640
and then he

1775
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:42,719
drops his hand down to my crotch and

1776
01:14:47,189 --> 01:14:45,040
it's not sexual but i feel this energy

1777
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:47,199
going for a couple minutes and he goes

1778
01:14:53,110 --> 01:14:50,800
his prostate is still okay

1779
01:14:55,590 --> 01:14:53,120
and i'm going still okay that's why my

1780
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:55,600
psa scores are normal now i got

1781
01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:59,679
diagnosed with prostatitis when i was 35

1782
01:15:03,270 --> 01:15:01,440
and then it went up to my stomach and

1783
01:15:06,709 --> 01:15:03,280
rubbed for

1784
01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:06,719
a half hour because i had been into the

1785
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:09,760
er twice earlier that month with sharp

1786
01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:12,080
pains like a knife in my gut and they

1787
01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:14,159
did a cat scan on me and found a golf

1788
01:15:19,270 --> 01:15:17,440
ball size growth in my intestinal tract

1789
01:15:23,030 --> 01:15:19,280
and he worked on that for a half hour

1790
01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:23,040
and he said his stomach is okay now

1791
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:26,320
so um a couple days after that cynthia

1792
01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:29,840
and i are back in puella washington

1793
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:34,080
and i'm undergoing the um the snake

1794
01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:36,880
you know the colonoscopy

1795
01:15:43,030 --> 01:15:40,400
and um i wake up after the procedure and

1796
01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:43,040
the doctor's standing there dumbfounded

1797
01:15:47,510 --> 01:15:44,960
and he's showing me the cat scan where

1798
01:15:50,630 --> 01:15:47,520
the golf ball size growth is

1799
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:50,640
and he said i went up your butt twice

1800
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:52,800
it's not it's not there

1801
01:15:57,669 --> 01:15:54,480
i looked everywhere

1802
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:57,679
it's not there it's gone sounds like i

1803
01:16:01,990 --> 01:15:59,520
need to uh

1804
01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:02,000
camp with you

1805
01:16:07,590 --> 01:16:03,600
it sounds like i gotta sleep under the

1806
01:16:09,590 --> 01:16:07,600
stars and uh uh okay uh

1807
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:09,600
let's let's come back to that

1808
01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:12,000
um i'm looking at the clock and we've

1809
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:13,920
got all of these images and audio that

1810
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:15,920
we're gonna get to too as well

1811
01:16:21,030 --> 01:16:18,560
um when we discuss

1812
01:16:22,550 --> 01:16:21,040
the genre

1813
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:22,560
how

1814
01:16:30,229 --> 01:16:25,920
if you were to guess

1815
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:33,590
so i asked that question yes

1816
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:35,840
his response was answering me with a

1817
01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:40,950
how many trees are there on the planet

1818
01:16:47,590 --> 01:16:42,320
right

1819
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:47,600
and and um i i'll tell you this

1820
01:16:52,390 --> 01:16:50,320
i did a fader fact i do fader facts on

1821
01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:52,400
every show i did a fader fact uh four or

1822
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:53,920
five years ago

1823
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:54,880
that

1824
01:17:02,470 --> 01:16:59,280
there are more stars in the milky way

1825
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:02,480
than there are trees on this planet and

1826
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:04,080
that number

1827
01:17:09,430 --> 01:17:06,880
is one trillion there's one trillion

1828
01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:09,440
trees on this planet

1829
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:10,560
so

1830
01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:12,480
are you suggesting

1831
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:14,800
that that number is

1832
01:17:18,950 --> 01:17:17,840
maybe one trillion

1833
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:18,960
um

1834
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:20,800
no i'm not

1835
01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:22,800
right right

1836
01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:25,360
that's that's a lot of genu

1837
01:17:29,590 --> 01:17:28,000
yeah well you figure orbs right going

1838
01:17:31,750 --> 01:17:29,600
into the tree and by the way your

1839
01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:31,760
listeners if they're not familiar with

1840
01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:33,760
my book or haven't watched any of my

1841
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:35,360
youtube videos they're going what the

1842
01:17:38,870 --> 01:17:37,360
heck is he talking about right

1843
01:17:41,669 --> 01:17:38,880
and when they're in orb form they go

1844
01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:41,679
inside the tree during the day to get

1845
01:17:46,070 --> 01:17:44,640
the energy from the sun and also the

1846
01:17:47,510 --> 01:17:46,080
nutrients from the ground through the

1847
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:47,520
roots and

1848
01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:49,520
trees are kind of like they're docking

1849
01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:52,080
stations or charging stations

1850
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:54,719
and once they've had their sustenance

1851
01:17:59,590 --> 01:17:57,040
then they pop out of the tree in orb

1852
01:18:01,750 --> 01:17:59,600
form and either remain in orb form or

1853
01:18:05,510 --> 01:18:01,760
they start shape-shifting and slowing

1854
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:05,520
down their vibrational frequency

1855
01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:08,080
and um so

1856
01:18:14,149 --> 01:18:09,600
they're

1857
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:14,159
thing about it is and i try to tell

1858
01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:16,080
people this you don't have to go up into

1859
01:18:21,990 --> 01:18:18,960
the mountains on horseback and quads and

1860
01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:22,000
go out for 50 100 200 miles into the

1861
01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:24,719
nowhere to try to interact with them

1862
01:18:27,750 --> 01:18:26,080
they're in your backyard do you have

1863
01:18:30,870 --> 01:18:27,760
trees in your backyard they're in your

1864
01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:30,880
backyard they're in central park

1865
01:18:36,070 --> 01:18:32,880
in new york city

1866
01:18:37,830 --> 01:18:36,080
and this is a good point to discuss the

1867
01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:37,840
council of 12

1868
01:18:43,910 --> 01:18:40,640
because and when i read this in the book

1869
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:43,920
and um and and also discussed this on

1870
01:18:47,510 --> 01:18:44,880
the air

1871
01:18:50,709 --> 01:18:47,520
i remember leading up to that and the

1872
01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:50,719
discussion of it i was expecting

1873
01:18:56,310 --> 01:18:52,960
something else right i don't know what i

1874
01:18:59,990 --> 01:18:56,320
was expecting but i wasn't expecting

1875
01:19:00,950 --> 01:19:00,000
how it was then revealed

1876
01:19:02,149 --> 01:19:00,960
um

1877
01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:02,159
so let's see

1878
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:02,960
yeah

1879
01:19:07,189 --> 01:19:05,040
right right okay

1880
01:19:09,669 --> 01:19:07,199
let's set this up we've got enough time

1881
01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:09,679
to get this in so

1882
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:11,280
everybody can

1883
01:19:15,030 --> 01:19:13,040
better understand what we're talking

1884
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:15,040
about here which is what we're talking

1885
01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:16,400
about

1886
01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:19,360
what is the council of 12 and when you

1887
01:19:23,030 --> 01:19:21,199
first

1888
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:23,040
were there

1889
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:26,800
did you know did you have any idea

1890
01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:30,000
what the council of 12 was in front of

1891
01:19:33,830 --> 01:19:31,360
you

1892
01:19:35,430 --> 01:19:33,840
no idea i had mike kincaid a good friend

1893
01:19:37,430 --> 01:19:35,440
of mine that had been out there with me

1894
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,440
for years i had steve bachman just

1895
01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:39,920
arrived on the scene who've you've you

1896
01:19:44,229 --> 01:19:42,000
have already interviewed before he's a

1897
01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:44,239
great guy great guy he's coming over to

1898
01:19:48,149 --> 01:19:45,600
our house this weekend we're going to

1899
01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:48,159
have about 50 people there for a

1900
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:51,280
weekend i'm gathering at our house and

1901
01:19:55,830 --> 01:19:53,520
um anyway uh steve bachman is the

1902
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:55,840
creator of the electromagnetic pulsating

1903
01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:59,040
device based on designs from tesla

1904
01:20:02,390 --> 01:20:00,480
and um

1905
01:20:04,790 --> 01:20:02,400
we were able to use that to jean new

1906
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:04,800
were able to use that to complete the

1907
01:20:08,470 --> 01:20:06,159
exodus

1908
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:08,480
to keep the portal open between earth

1909
01:20:11,110 --> 01:20:10,400
and their dying home world

1910
01:20:13,830 --> 01:20:11,120
and

1911
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:13,840
bring everybody over well

1912
01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:17,280
when we were asked to go up

1913
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:19,760
i was given a vision we were asked to go

1914
01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:23,360
up to the top of the hill in the area

1915
01:20:26,550 --> 01:20:24,719
um

1916
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:26,560
to meet with the council of 12 we were

1917
01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:29,440
fully expecting 12 upright hairy bipedal

1918
01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:32,880
beans to walk in so was i by the way

1919
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,520
yeah and and it turns out you know zorth

1920
01:20:39,270 --> 01:20:37,600
has a mind speak with me and he says

1921
01:20:41,430 --> 01:20:39,280
count the trees from your left to your

1922
01:20:44,470 --> 01:20:41,440
right now it's pitch dark at night

1923
01:20:47,910 --> 01:20:44,480
we're up in the middle of bloody nowhere

1924
01:20:50,870 --> 01:20:47,920
at over a mile elevation

1925
01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:50,880
and there's trees everywhere but he says

1926
01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:52,320
count the trees from your left to your

1927
01:20:56,550 --> 01:20:54,400
right that i could see right in the dark

1928
01:20:58,550 --> 01:20:56,560
and i count and there's 12 of them and

1929
01:21:00,709 --> 01:20:58,560
he says count again and there's 12 and

1930
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:00,719
then i'm and then he says we're in the

1931
01:21:05,669 --> 01:21:03,280
trees and then he says have mike and

1932
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:05,679
steve count so i say zorth wants you to

1933
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:07,199
count the trees from your left to the

1934
01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:09,679
right and they both count and what do

1935
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:12,480
you have 12 12. he wants you to count

1936
01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:16,000
one more time they count 12 12. and then

1937
01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:18,159
all sudden simultaneously

1938
01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:21,520
mike and steve go there and the trees

1939
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:23,280
and then that's when zorth revealed to

1940
01:21:27,669 --> 01:21:25,600
me that they're orbs and everything i've

1941
01:21:29,510 --> 01:21:27,679
already shared but the council of 12

1942
01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:29,520
consists of two members from each

1943
01:21:33,830 --> 01:21:31,920
habitable continent

1944
01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:33,840
okay so there's seven continents on the

1945
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:36,800
planet but antarctica is not habitable

1946
01:21:41,189 --> 01:21:38,800
there's no trees

1947
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:41,199
so there's two representatives from each

1948
01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:43,440
continent on the planet

1949
01:21:49,030 --> 01:21:45,920
now is this

1950
01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:49,040
is this location uh where the council of

1951
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:52,080
12 is is that the only

1952
01:21:56,149 --> 01:21:54,800
council of 12 location on the planet

1953
01:21:57,189 --> 01:21:56,159
that's where they that's where they

1954
01:22:01,270 --> 01:21:57,199
gather

1955
01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:01,280
let's explain

1956
01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:02,800
well now they're

1957
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:03,840
okay

1958
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:04,639
so

1959
01:22:09,990 --> 01:22:06,480
cynthia and i just

1960
01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:10,000
purchased a lovely 4 000 square foot log

1961
01:22:14,229 --> 01:22:12,800
home on top of a mountain in the state

1962
01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:14,239
of washington

1963
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:16,080
61 acres

1964
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:17,600
of forest

1965
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:19,120
and on

1966
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:23,199
their meeting location is nearby

1967
01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:24,880
they have moved

1968
01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:27,600
they gave up that area

1969
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,400
in southern oregon why what sir and and

1970
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:32,159
why did they give that up was it because

1971
01:22:38,149 --> 01:22:34,800
the location became known

1972
01:22:39,669 --> 01:22:38,159
because the location

1973
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:39,679
i'm just going to tell you because it

1974
01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:41,760
doesn't matter now

1975
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:43,600
i don't care if anybody else goes down

1976
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:45,120
there

1977
01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:47,600
it's it was located a couple miles

1978
01:22:53,189 --> 01:22:50,800
within a stone's throw the oregon caves

1979
01:22:55,430 --> 01:22:53,199
up in the mountains right and um it's

1980
01:22:58,550 --> 01:22:55,440
now you know it was a southern oregon

1981
01:23:01,910 --> 01:22:58,560
interaction area soya but now it's a

1982
01:23:03,350 --> 01:23:01,920
southern oregon tracon interaction area

1983
01:23:04,629 --> 01:23:03,360
so if you want to go play with the

1984
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:04,639
tracon

1985
01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:07,120
who hate you want to kill you eat you

1986
01:23:11,430 --> 01:23:09,760
and spread your bones go go there

1987
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:11,440
you know but the the

1988
01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:13,760
the national park the the rangers there

1989
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:16,400
were paying more and more and more

1990
01:23:20,709 --> 01:23:19,120
attention and showing up more when ever

1991
01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:20,719
we were there and

1992
01:23:26,149 --> 01:23:23,440
trail cams and you know just driving by

1993
01:23:27,990 --> 01:23:26,159
they never used to do that so zorro said

1994
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:28,000
we're we're getting out of this area and

1995
01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:30,960
it was at that area where i recorded the

1996
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:32,320
tracon

1997
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:33,280
saying

1998
01:23:37,189 --> 01:23:35,280
you mom

1999
01:23:38,229 --> 01:23:37,199
kind of like i want to kill you and eat

2000
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:38,239
you

2001
01:23:45,430 --> 01:23:42,400
and so the treycon have taken over and

2002
01:23:47,910 --> 01:23:45,440
they they smashed the x they broke the x

2003
01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:47,920
that the jean new established in the

2004
01:23:53,669 --> 01:23:50,000
area and all these x's out there in the

2005
01:23:57,350 --> 01:23:53,679
forest are the mark of the jean noo

2006
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:57,360
and and the x marks their territory now

2007
01:24:01,350 --> 01:23:58,320
um

2008
01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:01,360
eric awakening man who you know

2009
01:24:06,390 --> 01:24:04,159
eric awakening man uh

2010
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:06,400
i i don't know exactly

2011
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:08,320
uh this last year and a half has been a

2012
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:09,440
blur but

2013
01:24:17,270 --> 01:24:13,840
he had a a pretty rowdy experience

2014
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:17,280
um in arizona where

2015
01:24:21,510 --> 01:24:18,960
um and he i

2016
01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:21,520
think that his best guesstimate was uh

2017
01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:23,600
around three

2018
01:24:27,430 --> 01:24:26,239
dark uh entities at night it's about one

2019
01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:27,440
in the morning

2020
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:28,560
uh

2021
01:24:33,830 --> 01:24:30,800
we're shaking his van

2022
01:24:34,870 --> 01:24:33,840
and uh he

2023
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:34,880
he

2024
01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:44,719
some distance away and was facing that

2025
01:24:49,669 --> 01:24:47,440
he got pushed down from behind like he

2026
01:24:51,270 --> 01:24:49,679
was tackled and he's a big guy he he

2027
01:24:53,590 --> 01:24:51,280
like you right he's

2028
01:24:56,709 --> 01:24:53,600
he's he's tall he's he's a big he's a

2029
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:56,719
big human but he got pushed down

2030
01:25:01,830 --> 01:25:00,000
and with that type of experience that

2031
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:01,840
kind of negative encounter is that the

2032
01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:03,520
tracon

2033
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:05,360
that would be the treycon

2034
01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:07,920
if they're in physical form treycon are

2035
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:10,719
malevolent they're aggressive

2036
01:25:16,149 --> 01:25:14,960
um however the gen nu have been known

2037
01:25:18,070 --> 01:25:16,159
to um

2038
01:25:19,750 --> 01:25:18,080
herd

2039
01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:19,760
a-holes

2040
01:25:23,830 --> 01:25:22,239
out of the woods

2041
01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:23,840
people

2042
01:25:29,110 --> 01:25:27,679
their attitude they don't like their

2043
01:25:30,790 --> 01:25:29,120
approach they don't like their

2044
01:25:31,590 --> 01:25:30,800
disrespect

2045
01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:31,600
and

2046
01:25:34,390 --> 01:25:32,320
so

2047
01:25:37,430 --> 01:25:34,400
they'll never harm anybody they'll never

2048
01:25:38,950 --> 01:25:37,440
kill anybody but they'll roar chase them

2049
01:25:41,430 --> 01:25:38,960
out you know get them scared and move

2050
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:41,440
them along if we have somebody come into

2051
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:42,480
our house

2052
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:44,080
that we didn't invite and they're a

2053
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:45,520
total a-hole

2054
01:25:49,750 --> 01:25:48,000
we're going to show them the door

2055
01:25:52,709 --> 01:25:49,760
and so they've been known

2056
01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:52,719
to intimidate and you'll have people go

2057
01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:55,040
i was chased by nick when he tried to

2058
01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:57,360
kill me but i got away give me a break

2059
01:26:00,790 --> 01:25:59,040
the bigfoot wanted to kill you you

2060
01:26:02,470 --> 01:26:00,800
wouldn't be alive telling me that sure

2061
01:26:04,870 --> 01:26:02,480
sure you'd be dead

2062
01:26:06,149 --> 01:26:04,880
now um uh

2063
01:26:06,950 --> 01:26:06,159
the

2064
01:26:09,189 --> 01:26:06,960
uh

2065
01:26:14,149 --> 01:26:09,199
the

2066
01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:14,159
um which is

2067
01:26:20,950 --> 01:26:18,400
the communication seems to be

2068
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:20,960
uh the ability to

2069
01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:23,520
to talk telepathically

2070
01:26:29,910 --> 01:26:27,120
or to understand or see it may not be a

2071
01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:29,920
conversation that's telepathic but

2072
01:26:35,030 --> 01:26:32,719
certainly there is a communication

2073
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:35,040
between us humans and

2074
01:26:39,430 --> 01:26:36,880
and the genu

2075
01:26:41,510 --> 01:26:39,440
and that is becoming more and more

2076
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:41,520
obvious is that

2077
01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:44,000
uh only from the genu or could that be

2078
01:26:48,950 --> 01:26:46,400
from another physical species too as

2079
01:26:53,350 --> 01:26:50,790
source said that if a

2080
01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:53,360
uh kind person with a good heart and an

2081
01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:56,000
open mind reaches out to us we will

2082
01:27:00,950 --> 01:26:58,159
reach back to them

2083
01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:00,960
um but those three criteria important

2084
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:02,400
and you you could have a kind person

2085
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:04,560
with a good heart but not an open mind

2086
01:27:09,669 --> 01:27:07,280
and that's not good enough um

2087
01:27:10,709 --> 01:27:09,679
so they will reach back

2088
01:27:12,629 --> 01:27:10,719
um

2089
01:27:14,709 --> 01:27:12,639
so that telepathically they would

2090
01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:14,719
understand those three points they would

2091
01:27:17,270 --> 01:27:16,400
know that in advance

2092
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:17,280
they

2093
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:24,320
but

2094
01:27:27,830 --> 01:27:26,080
telepathically

2095
01:27:30,310 --> 01:27:27,840
they can communicate with some who are

2096
01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:30,320
wired to receive others aren't

2097
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:32,080
as wired steve bachmann who you

2098
01:27:37,030 --> 01:27:34,800
interviewed yes he he can't do the

2099
01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:37,040
telepathic communication

2100
01:27:39,990 --> 01:27:38,320
so they

2101
01:27:41,750 --> 01:27:40,000
work with him and found a way to

2102
01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:41,760
communicate with him where he has some

2103
01:27:45,910 --> 01:27:44,159
questions and they have to be yes no

2104
01:27:47,430 --> 01:27:45,920
questions and then they'll push on them

2105
01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:47,440
if it's a yes and

2106
01:27:55,510 --> 01:27:53,189
they can communicate through symbols and

2107
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:55,520
glyphs there's lots of different ways

2108
01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:56,960
that they will reach out and try to

2109
01:28:01,270 --> 01:27:59,520
connect with the human based on that

2110
01:28:03,110 --> 01:28:01,280
humans particular

2111
01:28:05,510 --> 01:28:03,120
strengths and weaknesses what they're

2112
01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:05,520
wired for and not wired for

2113
01:28:09,590 --> 01:28:07,440
what does the

2114
01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:09,600
what does our government know

2115
01:28:14,470 --> 01:28:11,520
about bigfoot and

2116
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:14,480
and if they do know something do they

2117
01:28:26,709 --> 01:28:23,830
now i'm going to sound like a tin hat

2118
01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:26,719
conspiracy therap well serious welcome

2119
01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:29,120
to the club i'm gonna answer that

2120
01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:30,560
question for you

2121
01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:33,280
when i took my family back up on the

2122
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:35,280
mountain a couple days after our

2123
01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:37,520
encounter and ranger john roth

2124
01:28:40,870 --> 01:28:38,560
you know

2125
01:28:43,750 --> 01:28:40,880
had me walking through everything plus a

2126
01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:43,760
couple members of the bfro were there

2127
01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:46,800
and ranger john roth went off the path

2128
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:48,480
down and checked the area said something

2129
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:50,800
big was went through here within the

2130
01:28:55,910 --> 01:28:53,840
last 24 48 hours come on down i want to

2131
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:55,920
show you guys something there's this

2132
01:29:01,830 --> 01:28:58,560
huge track on a trail

2133
01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:01,840
which dwarfed my size 16 foot

2134
01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:03,040
and um

2135
01:29:08,709 --> 01:29:05,760
he's he's he's squatted down pointing at

2136
01:29:11,030 --> 01:29:08,719
it saying why it's not a bear

2137
01:29:13,910 --> 01:29:11,040
why it's a bigfoot track

2138
01:29:15,990 --> 01:29:13,920
and we're all standing listening to him

2139
01:29:17,430 --> 01:29:16,000
and then he looks up at us and he says i

2140
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:17,440
need to let you know

2141
01:29:24,229 --> 01:29:20,560
that the park has a policy where we will

2142
01:29:27,510 --> 01:29:24,239
not take a public position regarding the

2143
01:29:29,990 --> 01:29:27,520
existence of the bigfoot species within

2144
01:29:32,550 --> 01:29:30,000
our park boundaries

2145
01:29:35,590 --> 01:29:32,560
simple as that right what the heck did

2146
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:35,600
he just say they have a policy

2147
01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:36,960
how do you how do you have a policy

2148
01:29:41,350 --> 01:29:39,120
unless a bunch of guys sit down

2149
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:41,360
and talk about creating a policy and why

2150
01:29:46,229 --> 01:29:44,159
would you sit down and create a policy

2151
01:29:47,270 --> 01:29:46,239
unless things had happened in that park

2152
01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:47,280
before

2153
01:29:51,990 --> 01:29:49,600
and then in the next month i was

2154
01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:52,000
inundated with phone calls and emails

2155
01:29:56,550 --> 01:29:53,199
from people

2156
01:29:58,790 --> 01:29:56,560
who worked there hiked there mine near

2157
01:30:01,350 --> 01:29:58,800
there hunted near there who all had

2158
01:30:02,950 --> 01:30:01,360
experiences spanning a 30-year period of

2159
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:02,960
time

2160
01:30:11,110 --> 01:30:06,800
so the park was covering it up obviously

2161
01:30:16,870 --> 01:30:14,629
senator um winan from oregon speak at

2162
01:30:22,390 --> 01:30:19,669
grants pass rotary club

2163
01:30:24,229 --> 01:30:22,400
and um i had spoken a little bit earlier

2164
01:30:26,950 --> 01:30:24,239
about you know they always had this

2165
01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:26,960
happy buck you stand up you throw a buck

2166
01:30:30,790 --> 01:30:28,880
on the table for fundraising and share

2167
01:30:32,629 --> 01:30:30,800
something happy that happened that week

2168
01:30:35,030 --> 01:30:32,639
well everybody was accustomed to me

2169
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:35,040
standing up and throwing my dollar on

2170
01:30:40,310 --> 01:30:37,760
the table and i called it my hairy buck

2171
01:30:43,030 --> 01:30:40,320
not happy book my hairy buck and i would

2172
01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:43,040
share updates for more research

2173
01:30:46,629 --> 01:30:44,320
and so

2174
01:30:47,830 --> 01:30:46,639
you know the senator the u.s senator is

2175
01:30:50,950 --> 01:30:47,840
listening

2176
01:30:52,870 --> 01:30:50,960
and i end it with and one day when we

2177
01:30:56,149 --> 01:30:52,880
prove the existence of the bigfoot

2178
01:30:58,149 --> 01:30:56,159
species i doubt the united states

2179
01:31:00,070 --> 01:30:58,159
government will be prepared to deal with

2180
01:31:02,390 --> 01:31:00,080
the ramifications

2181
01:31:05,030 --> 01:31:02,400
well i sit down he stands up he gives

2182
01:31:07,270 --> 01:31:05,040
this talk for 20 minutes and then he

2183
01:31:11,030 --> 01:31:07,280
looks directly at me across the room and

2184
01:31:13,350 --> 01:31:11,040
he goes dr johnson i can assure you when

2185
01:31:16,390 --> 01:31:13,360
you establish the existence of the

2186
01:31:19,270 --> 01:31:16,400
bigfoot species the united states

2187
01:31:21,750 --> 01:31:19,280
congress will be fully prepared to deal

2188
01:31:23,830 --> 01:31:21,760
with the ramifications let's take our

2189
01:31:25,910 --> 01:31:23,840
break right here our guest tonight dr

2190
01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:25,920
matthew johnson we are discussing the

2191
01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:27,520
bigfoot reality

2192
01:31:31,830 --> 01:31:29,280
when we come back after this break we'll

2193
01:31:34,229 --> 01:31:31,840
get to uh some images

2194
01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:34,239
we'll get to some audio we'll discuss

2195
01:31:45,550 --> 01:31:36,000
all of that right after this short break

2196
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:55,830
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2197
01:32:02,070 --> 01:31:59,030
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2198
01:32:03,910 --> 01:32:02,080
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01:32:06,629 --> 01:32:03,920
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01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:23,990
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2202
01:32:28,709 --> 01:32:26,070
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2203
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matthew johnson more with matthew right

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2313
01:38:00,390 --> 01:37:58,880
all right our guest tonight dr matthew

2314
01:38:04,149 --> 01:38:00,400
johnson and

2315
01:38:06,629 --> 01:38:04,159
um somebody just posted up in in uh

2316
01:38:07,430 --> 01:38:06,639
in uh one of the chat rooms matthew said

2317
01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:07,440
that

2318
01:38:10,390 --> 01:38:09,360
made me laugh you were probably watching

2319
01:38:14,830 --> 01:38:10,400
me laugh

2320
01:38:18,870 --> 01:38:17,590
distancing yeah he's pretty good at it

2321
01:38:21,109 --> 01:38:18,880
man i just

2322
01:38:23,270 --> 01:38:21,119
i just laughed i i scroll back to see

2323
01:38:25,189 --> 01:38:23,280
who i i can't give credit there's too

2324
01:38:27,830 --> 01:38:25,199
many too many posts that are happening

2325
01:38:30,149 --> 01:38:27,840
in a row but whoever posted that spot on

2326
01:38:33,510 --> 01:38:30,159
and well played all right so we've got a

2327
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:33,520
collection of stuff here and uh

2328
01:38:40,149 --> 01:38:36,400
um i don't know where to start i kind of

2329
01:38:41,109 --> 01:38:40,159
uh want to start with um some audio

2330
01:38:42,629 --> 01:38:41,119
and

2331
01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:42,639
the one

2332
01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:44,400
i could almost say you could take your

2333
01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:46,800
pick but the one that i'm attracted to

2334
01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:48,320
right away

2335
01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:51,440
is bigfoot scream in backyard

2336
01:38:56,950 --> 01:38:53,679
can we start there

2337
01:38:59,510 --> 01:38:56,960
yes um this was recorded um

2338
01:39:00,790 --> 01:38:59,520
with the parabolic microphone dish if

2339
01:39:02,629 --> 01:39:00,800
anyone out there wants to get their

2340
01:39:05,350 --> 01:39:02,639
hands on a really good parabolic

2341
01:39:06,870 --> 01:39:05,360
microphone dish i'd uh suggest the

2342
01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:06,880
bionic ear

2343
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:09,119
parabolic microphone dish and hook it up

2344
01:39:13,270 --> 01:39:10,880
with a really nice

2345
01:39:14,870 --> 01:39:13,280
digital recording device and you'll get

2346
01:39:17,350 --> 01:39:14,880
some good sound so

2347
01:39:19,669 --> 01:39:17,360
this was right out of our backyard in

2348
01:39:21,189 --> 01:39:19,679
our previous home that we just moved

2349
01:39:22,870 --> 01:39:21,199
away from

2350
01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:22,880
a week and a half ago

2351
01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:25,600
and uh so i'm going to play it now and

2352
01:39:30,550 --> 01:39:27,520
we'll we'll play it a couple of times

2353
01:39:31,430 --> 01:39:30,560
this is about 13 seconds long

2354
01:39:45,109 --> 01:39:31,440
and

2355
01:39:50,950 --> 01:39:48,550
okay now um the uh

2356
01:39:54,310 --> 01:39:50,960
excellent excellent capture

2357
01:39:56,229 --> 01:39:54,320
um i can tell that it was amplified uh

2358
01:39:58,870 --> 01:39:56,239
yes you know it's uh done with the

2359
01:40:00,629 --> 01:39:58,880
parabolic mic and do any idea on

2360
01:40:04,149 --> 01:40:00,639
distance

2361
01:40:07,430 --> 01:40:04,159
okay so um our previous home was on 10

2362
01:40:09,430 --> 01:40:07,440
acres of sloped property that went down

2363
01:40:12,229 --> 01:40:09,440
that went down to wetlands and then

2364
01:40:14,310 --> 01:40:12,239
across the wetlands on the other side

2365
01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:14,320
um were half a million acres of

2366
01:40:19,910 --> 01:40:16,800
warehouse or timber property

2367
01:40:22,709 --> 01:40:19,920
and it was coming from the that sloped

2368
01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:22,719
property timber property on the other

2369
01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:25,760
side of the wetlands so

2370
01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:27,199
i don't know

2371
01:40:31,830 --> 01:40:28,880
3

2372
01:40:35,350 --> 01:40:31,840
400 yards away let's uh let's play that

2373
01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:35,360
again and um as now

2374
01:40:39,990 --> 01:40:36,960
and i told uh

2375
01:40:41,590 --> 01:40:40,000
uh matthew earlier i i want to listen to

2376
01:40:43,750 --> 01:40:41,600
these for the first time along with the

2377
01:40:45,910 --> 01:40:43,760
audience and and

2378
01:40:49,590 --> 01:40:45,920
and get my own reaction

2379
01:40:51,350 --> 01:40:49,600
and my first reaction to this is

2380
01:40:53,109 --> 01:40:51,360
it doesn't sound like any other force

2381
01:40:54,950 --> 01:40:53,119
creature that i've heard

2382
01:40:58,229 --> 01:40:54,960
could have been a squirrel yeah it could

2383
01:41:00,790 --> 01:40:58,239
have been a squirrel yeah i've got

2384
01:41:03,270 --> 01:41:00,800
i have a squirrel uh that

2385
01:41:06,310 --> 01:41:03,280
i swear to god this dude talks to me

2386
01:41:09,830 --> 01:41:06,320
and i i've never heard of a squirrel uh

2387
01:41:11,669 --> 01:41:09,840
make noise but this guy uh makes noise

2388
01:41:15,910 --> 01:41:11,679
well we'll talk about that on another

2389
01:41:18,629 --> 01:41:15,920
show anyway but this doesn't sound happy

2390
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:18,639
that's just my first impression um what

2391
01:41:21,990 --> 01:41:20,800
is the meaning behind this before i play

2392
01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:22,000
it again

2393
01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:25,840
okay so the gen nu after the exodus

2394
01:41:32,149 --> 01:41:28,239
asked me to remain on board because when

2395
01:41:35,669 --> 01:41:32,159
the exodus was over 16 years of kind of

2396
01:41:37,830 --> 01:41:35,679
ocd compulsive i gotta

2397
01:41:39,430 --> 01:41:37,840
solve this i gotta find the answer i

2398
01:41:42,470 --> 01:41:39,440
gotta have the solution and when the

2399
01:41:44,950 --> 01:41:42,480
exodus is over the next morning

2400
01:41:48,149 --> 01:41:44,960
i'm like i'm free right zortha i'm done

2401
01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:48,159
i'm i did my deed for king and country i

2402
01:41:53,590 --> 01:41:51,040
can go now and he said well yeah but

2403
01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:53,600
we'd like you to stay on board as our

2404
01:42:00,390 --> 01:41:56,480
ambassador we'd like you to be our our

2405
01:42:02,709 --> 01:42:00,400
13. we'd like you to help educate others

2406
01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:02,719
around the world about us

2407
01:42:07,030 --> 01:42:03,760
well

2408
01:42:08,790 --> 01:42:07,040
i'm okay that's an honor sure after 16

2409
01:42:11,750 --> 01:42:08,800
years of this why not

2410
01:42:13,189 --> 01:42:11,760
um so sure i would love to do that well

2411
01:42:15,910 --> 01:42:13,199
they know

2412
01:42:18,310 --> 01:42:15,920
in order for me to do that i need to be

2413
01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:18,320
able to provide evidence that i actually

2414
01:42:23,430 --> 01:42:21,360
have a relationship with them

2415
01:42:25,750 --> 01:42:23,440
and so they give me pictures they give

2416
01:42:27,510 --> 01:42:25,760
me audio recordings they give me all

2417
01:42:29,669 --> 01:42:27,520
kinds of things to turn around and share

2418
01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:29,679
with everybody else

2419
01:42:34,390 --> 01:42:32,400
that i do have a relationship with them

2420
01:42:37,430 --> 01:42:34,400
i am interacting with them that happened

2421
01:42:39,189 --> 01:42:37,440
to be khan too who was the leader of the

2422
01:42:42,550 --> 01:42:39,199
family group

2423
01:42:45,910 --> 01:42:42,560
on our property so he wasn't angry

2424
01:42:48,070 --> 01:42:45,920
he was just giving this audio proof that

2425
01:42:50,629 --> 01:42:48,080
they're on our property i got you and

2426
01:42:52,229 --> 01:42:50,639
you're referring to the exodus uh with

2427
01:42:55,350 --> 01:42:52,239
uh steve bachmann

2428
01:42:57,430 --> 01:42:55,360
yes and mike kincaid yeah uh and my case

2429
01:42:59,189 --> 01:42:57,440
my son grady johnson was there as well

2430
01:43:01,750 --> 01:42:59,199
oh we're gonna post some pictures of

2431
01:43:04,310 --> 01:43:01,760
everybody um probably in the next

2432
01:43:05,590 --> 01:43:04,320
segment after we get through this audio

2433
01:43:20,709 --> 01:43:05,600
um

2434
01:43:26,790 --> 01:43:23,669
yeah that's uh that's pretty amazing

2435
01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:26,800
that is uh pretty amazing i

2436
01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:28,960
it sounds uh

2437
01:43:31,510 --> 01:43:30,080
uh

2438
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:31,520
large

2439
01:43:35,270 --> 01:43:32,320
yes

2440
01:43:36,470 --> 01:43:35,280
the contour is large it sounds

2441
01:43:40,229 --> 01:43:36,480
large

2442
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:40,239
yes okay um i'm gonna go online picking

2443
01:43:44,629 --> 01:43:42,400
the screen the other one the other

2444
01:43:48,550 --> 01:43:44,639
screen from the backyard

2445
01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:48,560
um okay okay i i don't have that

2446
01:43:54,149 --> 01:43:51,199
and you know why i don't have that you

2447
01:43:55,189 --> 01:43:54,159
you gave it the same title

2448
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:55,199
and

2449
01:43:59,910 --> 01:43:56,239
um

2450
01:44:02,229 --> 01:43:59,920
so i didn't want to override the file

2451
01:44:03,350 --> 01:44:02,239
got it right because i thought it was a

2452
01:44:04,310 --> 01:44:03,360
duplicate

2453
01:44:06,229 --> 01:44:04,320
now

2454
01:44:07,430 --> 01:44:06,239
see that's me being the doofus it was

2455
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:07,440
the same

2456
01:44:09,830 --> 01:44:08,880
way i just thought you sent it to me

2457
01:44:13,350 --> 01:44:09,840
twice

2458
01:44:16,870 --> 01:44:13,360
okay um uh i can i can go back and find

2459
01:44:19,430 --> 01:44:16,880
it uh okay let's go to

2460
01:44:22,390 --> 01:44:19,440
matt matt matt

2461
01:44:24,550 --> 01:44:22,400
okay so i'm at the southern oregon

2462
01:44:28,709 --> 01:44:24,560
habituation area

2463
01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:28,719
this is in december of 2013.

2464
01:44:33,189 --> 01:44:31,840
johnny manson and i are up there after

2465
01:44:36,870 --> 01:44:33,199
christmas

2466
01:44:39,109 --> 01:44:36,880
it's um 20 above zero

2467
01:44:42,870 --> 01:44:39,119
we wake up with ice

2468
01:44:45,510 --> 01:44:42,880
on our sleeping bags and on our faces

2469
01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:45,520
and um we go out and we get the gifting

2470
01:44:49,189 --> 01:44:46,639
bowls

2471
01:44:50,149 --> 01:44:49,199
and then we come back

2472
01:44:58,790 --> 01:44:50,159
and

2473
01:45:00,950 --> 01:44:58,800
bodies because we feel like we're we're

2474
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:00,960
dying of hypothermia

2475
01:45:05,109 --> 01:45:03,679
so i'm still recording because i record

2476
01:45:07,590 --> 01:45:05,119
all night long

2477
01:45:10,550 --> 01:45:07,600
and so we're in the suburban warming up

2478
01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:10,560
and i think um

2479
01:45:17,350 --> 01:45:13,760
cesca thinks we're leaving

2480
01:45:20,070 --> 01:45:17,360
and and so he's calling out my name matt

2481
01:45:21,189 --> 01:45:20,080
matt matt and i kind of cycled it so

2482
01:45:23,510 --> 01:45:21,199
it's in

2483
01:45:25,430 --> 01:45:23,520
he says it three times and then it loops

2484
01:45:27,750 --> 01:45:25,440
three times it loops

2485
01:45:29,830 --> 01:45:27,760
here we go this is uh it's about 20

2486
01:45:32,500 --> 01:45:29,840
seconds

2487
01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:32,510
yep

2488
01:45:52,629 --> 01:45:50,080
[Music]

2489
01:45:54,470 --> 01:45:52,639
uh okay again incredible what do you how

2490
01:45:55,910 --> 01:45:54,480
do you respond okay

2491
01:45:57,510 --> 01:45:55,920
hold on

2492
01:46:01,750 --> 01:45:57,520
did you

2493
01:46:04,149 --> 01:46:01,760
no we're in the suburban trying to

2494
01:46:06,709 --> 01:46:04,159
survive the engine's on the heaters

2495
01:46:08,870 --> 01:46:06,719
blowing no i had no clue this is going

2496
01:46:14,229 --> 01:46:08,880
on outside

2497
01:46:16,229 --> 01:46:14,239
you didn't have an opportunity to

2498
01:46:17,669 --> 01:46:16,239
respond nope

2499
01:46:19,669 --> 01:46:17,679
didn't know what happened until i got

2500
01:46:22,229 --> 01:46:19,679
home and listened to the audio recording

2501
01:46:25,590 --> 01:46:22,239
and when i record all night long which

2502
01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:25,600
is going to be 8 10 12 hours that means

2503
01:46:30,229 --> 01:46:26,880
i come home

2504
01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:30,239
and i listen to every second of that

2505
01:46:34,870 --> 01:46:32,400
eight ten twelve hours yeah it's the

2506
01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:34,880
most i don't just look at the spikes

2507
01:46:38,550 --> 01:46:37,360
because some of the best stuff is in the

2508
01:46:41,189 --> 01:46:38,560
valleys

2509
01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:41,199
in between the spikes that's right and

2510
01:46:47,970 --> 01:46:43,920
it's time-consuming

2511
01:46:55,030 --> 01:46:47,980
time-consuming and let's hear this again

2512
01:47:08,229 --> 01:46:57,700
yep

2513
01:47:12,950 --> 01:47:10,950
sounds like a broken heart

2514
01:47:15,109 --> 01:47:12,960
well i think he was you know he thought

2515
01:47:16,870 --> 01:47:15,119
we were leaving right right right and he

2516
01:47:19,109 --> 01:47:16,880
didn't want us to go

2517
01:47:20,149 --> 01:47:19,119
sounds like a broken heart dude

2518
01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:20,159
dude

2519
01:47:22,470 --> 01:47:21,280
yeah

2520
01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:22,480
let's

2521
01:47:30,149 --> 01:47:28,000
the next one again i i like the title

2522
01:47:34,149 --> 01:47:30,159
ah ah

2523
01:47:38,149 --> 01:47:34,159
day weilou oh ah de weilou

2524
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:41,830
i have um some gentlemen up in

2525
01:47:46,070 --> 01:47:44,080
the mountains with me adam davies a

2526
01:47:48,310 --> 01:47:46,080
british researcher

2527
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:48,320
um and a friend of his from new jersey

2528
01:47:52,550 --> 01:47:49,679
john carlson

2529
01:47:54,629 --> 01:47:52,560
and they're up in the mountains with me

2530
01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:54,639
and

2531
01:47:58,790 --> 01:47:57,600
we had some long nights up there

2532
01:48:00,229 --> 01:47:58,800
and

2533
01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:00,239
we had

2534
01:48:05,189 --> 01:48:03,360
gone out to collect the gifting bowls at

2535
01:48:07,830 --> 01:48:05,199
sunrise and they had fingerprints

2536
01:48:10,149 --> 01:48:07,840
handprints on them but we were exhausted

2537
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:10,159
so we put the bowls back on the table

2538
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:12,320
which also had the parabolic microphone

2539
01:48:18,310 --> 01:48:13,840
dish on the table

2540
01:48:19,350 --> 01:48:18,320
also had a box of four cinnabon rolls

2541
01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:19,360
okay

2542
01:48:22,149 --> 01:48:20,320
so

2543
01:48:24,149 --> 01:48:22,159
adam was there john was there i was

2544
01:48:26,229 --> 01:48:24,159
there and my youngest boy grady was

2545
01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:26,239
there and the goal was we're climbing

2546
01:48:30,950 --> 01:48:28,320
back into our sleeping bags getting some

2547
01:48:32,790 --> 01:48:30,960
more sleep and when we wake up we're

2548
01:48:36,229 --> 01:48:32,800
going to have those cinnabon rolls for

2549
01:48:38,790 --> 01:48:36,239
breakfast right so we go back to sleep

2550
01:48:40,870 --> 01:48:38,800
we wake up a couple hours later we go

2551
01:48:43,030 --> 01:48:40,880
over the cinnamon roll box which is

2552
01:48:45,750 --> 01:48:43,040
still on the table

2553
01:48:48,070 --> 01:48:45,760
and the rolls are gone

2554
01:48:49,510 --> 01:48:48,080
they're gone and the lid's closed

2555
01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:49,520
it's like what the

2556
01:48:54,149 --> 01:48:51,440
did you guys take no i didn't touch it i

2557
01:48:56,790 --> 01:48:54,159
didn't how about no i didn't

2558
01:49:00,870 --> 01:48:56,800
and i'm like this is weird but i left

2559
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:00,880
the recorder on so when i got home

2560
01:49:04,870 --> 01:49:03,760
i listened to who took those cinnabon

2561
01:49:06,870 --> 01:49:04,880
rolls

2562
01:49:10,229 --> 01:49:06,880
and if you listen closely you'll hear a

2563
01:49:11,430 --> 01:49:10,239
couple genu all kind of talking and one

2564
01:49:15,270 --> 01:49:11,440
ends with

2565
01:49:17,990 --> 01:49:15,280
oh de wae lou which i know what that

2566
01:49:19,109 --> 01:49:18,000
means in squat chinese

2567
01:49:20,229 --> 01:49:19,119
it means

2568
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:20,239
score

2569
01:49:26,550 --> 01:49:23,360
we got the cinnabon rolls

2570
01:49:28,550 --> 01:49:26,560
hey look i'm going to be honest with you

2571
01:49:30,550 --> 01:49:28,560
that kind of phenomenon isn't exclusive

2572
01:49:33,350 --> 01:49:30,560
to sasquatch i've had them disappear in

2573
01:49:35,430 --> 01:49:33,360
my own house yeah

2574
01:49:38,090 --> 01:49:35,440
that's a fact that's a fact okay here we

2575
01:49:39,330 --> 01:49:38,100
go

2576
01:49:56,790 --> 01:49:39,340
[Music]

2577
01:50:01,669 --> 01:49:58,790
so it's looped they didn't say that

2578
01:50:04,300 --> 01:50:01,679
twice right twice let's i'm gonna play

2579
01:50:11,830 --> 01:50:04,310
that again

2580
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:21,750
[Music]

2581
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:27,350
you got birds too so they are able to

2582
01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:28,470
i mean

2583
01:50:32,390 --> 01:50:30,000
primates

2584
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:32,400
don't have the ability

2585
01:50:37,510 --> 01:50:35,840
they don't have vocal cords to v to to

2586
01:50:40,550 --> 01:50:37,520
chop up

2587
01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:40,560
tone into words

2588
01:50:44,470 --> 01:50:42,480
correct and these are not primates

2589
01:50:47,589 --> 01:50:44,480
that's what i'm saying here these are an

2590
01:50:49,669 --> 01:50:47,599
alien species from another planet here

2591
01:50:53,270 --> 01:50:49,679
you can clearly

2592
01:50:56,229 --> 01:50:53,280
uh it's audible that they are able to

2593
01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:56,239
it's not just telepathy that they are

2594
01:50:59,750 --> 01:50:57,520
able to

2595
01:51:01,990 --> 01:50:59,760
what's the word that i'm looking for and

2596
01:51:04,950 --> 01:51:02,000
i'm a guitar player i'm a musician

2597
01:51:06,470 --> 01:51:04,960
there's a word that i'm trying that that

2598
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:06,480
i'm trying to get out

2599
01:51:13,669 --> 01:51:10,800
um modulate that's the word that um

2600
01:51:15,270 --> 01:51:13,679
the genu can modulate so they it's not

2601
01:51:18,149 --> 01:51:15,280
just telepathy

2602
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:18,159
it's a physical speech

2603
01:51:23,510 --> 01:51:21,280
yeah they can if they want to yes

2604
01:51:25,669 --> 01:51:23,520
definitely that is fascinating that is

2605
01:51:27,750 --> 01:51:25,679
absolutely fascinating next one let me

2606
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:27,760
look at the break okay we have time to

2607
01:51:32,470 --> 01:51:30,320
get two more in

2608
01:51:34,470 --> 01:51:32,480
melodic scream

2609
01:51:36,950 --> 01:51:34,480
oh here we are that's the one oh that's

2610
01:51:38,470 --> 01:51:36,960
this is contu's wife

2611
01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:38,480
saria

2612
01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:41,040
okay and now she's on the other side of

2613
01:51:44,870 --> 01:51:42,400
the wetlands

2614
01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:44,880
doing this melodic scream and then her

2615
01:51:49,350 --> 01:51:47,040
husband khan too is on our side of the

2616
01:51:52,870 --> 01:51:49,360
wetlands on our slope property

2617
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:52,880
responding to her at the end so then you

2618
01:51:57,030 --> 01:51:55,610
did send me the backyard scream twice

2619
01:51:58,709 --> 01:51:57,040
[Laughter]

2620
01:51:59,669 --> 01:51:58,719
my dad okay

2621
01:52:02,709 --> 01:51:59,679
see

2622
01:52:05,589 --> 01:52:02,719
okay there we go okay here we go this is

2623
01:52:06,470 --> 01:52:05,599
a melodic scream

2624
01:52:07,990 --> 01:52:06,480
and

2625
01:52:09,669 --> 01:52:08,000
before we hear that i just want to

2626
01:52:11,669 --> 01:52:09,679
understand are you saying that this is a

2627
01:52:14,790 --> 01:52:11,679
question and answer

2628
01:52:16,550 --> 01:52:14,800
between the two she he's just responding

2629
01:52:19,109 --> 01:52:16,560
not a question and answer

2630
01:52:22,229 --> 01:52:19,119
she's just doing her melodic scream and

2631
01:52:31,220 --> 01:52:22,239
he responds to her melodic scream got it

2632
01:52:31,230 --> 01:52:39,669
[Applause]

2633
01:52:55,190 --> 01:52:41,750
that is fantastic

2634
01:52:55,200 --> 01:53:00,149
[Applause]

2635
01:53:05,030 --> 01:53:01,270
how

2636
01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:05,040
this sounds really amplified to me

2637
01:53:07,830 --> 01:53:06,239
um

2638
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:07,840
because of the background you know i can

2639
01:53:15,350 --> 01:53:10,960
hear hear that uh amplified

2640
01:53:18,870 --> 01:53:15,360
can you hear this with your own ears

2641
01:53:21,589 --> 01:53:18,880
barely the parabolic microphone dish did

2642
01:53:24,310 --> 01:53:21,599
its job but cynthia and i were sitting

2643
01:53:27,030 --> 01:53:24,320
at the fire pit in our backyard and we

2644
01:53:29,350 --> 01:53:27,040
could barely hear it but the

2645
01:53:32,070 --> 01:53:29,360
the bionic gear parabolic microphone

2646
01:53:34,790 --> 01:53:32,080
dish did amplify it and the recording

2647
01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:34,800
was incredible now you did mention time

2648
01:53:39,589 --> 01:53:37,679
for two more that was one out of two

2649
01:53:42,629 --> 01:53:39,599
if we're going to pick one last one i

2650
01:53:44,470 --> 01:53:42,639
would want it to be serea where she says

2651
01:53:46,709 --> 01:53:44,480
agathos

2652
01:53:49,270 --> 01:53:46,719
oh come you should be positive about

2653
01:53:51,430 --> 01:53:49,280
living with us and to frame that up

2654
01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:51,440
cynthia and i were doing a night sit by

2655
01:53:57,270 --> 01:53:54,400
ourselves in our backyard recording and

2656
01:54:00,229 --> 01:53:57,280
we were kind of having a whining fest

2657
01:54:03,030 --> 01:54:00,239
about a tough day a tough week

2658
01:54:05,750 --> 01:54:03,040
certain people blah blah and haters in

2659
01:54:06,709 --> 01:54:05,760
the bigfoot world who are riding my butt

2660
01:54:09,910 --> 01:54:06,719
and

2661
01:54:12,149 --> 01:54:09,920
so anyway we're done whining to each

2662
01:54:13,990 --> 01:54:12,159
other we get up we go into the house go

2663
01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:14,000
to the bathroom brush our teeth grab our

2664
01:54:18,629 --> 01:54:16,480
pillows to come back out and climb in

2665
01:54:21,030 --> 01:54:18,639
the sleeping bags on our cots and sleep

2666
01:54:22,870 --> 01:54:21,040
under the stars well while we're in the

2667
01:54:24,070 --> 01:54:22,880
house getting ready to come back out

2668
01:54:26,550 --> 01:54:24,080
saria

2669
01:54:29,189 --> 01:54:26,560
walks up to the parabolic microphone

2670
01:54:31,189 --> 01:54:29,199
dish and gently and kindly and lovingly

2671
01:54:33,430 --> 01:54:31,199
kicks our butts

2672
01:54:36,229 --> 01:54:33,440
about our attitude

2673
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:36,239
and so she starts off agathos which is

2674
01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:37,840
greek

2675
01:54:42,149 --> 01:54:40,560
for god is good

2676
01:54:45,189 --> 01:54:42,159
agathos

2677
01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:45,199
o come you should be positive about

2678
01:54:51,669 --> 01:54:47,280
living with us

2679
01:54:54,149 --> 01:54:51,679
now this is an awesome recording now

2680
01:54:56,950 --> 01:54:54,159
this is three seconds long

2681
01:55:04,790 --> 01:54:56,960
ago oh come you should be positive about

2682
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:10,310
play it again

2683
01:55:14,149 --> 01:55:12,229
this was outside

2684
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:14,159
yeah she walked up to the parabolic

2685
01:55:18,470 --> 01:55:16,320
microphone dish and gently kicked our

2686
01:55:20,390 --> 01:55:18,480
butts while we were inside the house

2687
01:55:31,589 --> 01:55:20,400
about our attitudes okay i'm going to

2688
01:55:37,510 --> 01:55:33,750
somebody just uh

2689
01:55:40,149 --> 01:55:37,520
uh tweeted that spooky

2690
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:40,159
did you see her

2691
01:55:44,550 --> 01:55:42,480
well i've seen her yes no i mean uh

2692
01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:44,560
record this

2693
01:55:54,550 --> 01:55:47,360
no no you were inside you were inside

2694
01:55:57,189 --> 01:55:55,589
wow

2695
01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:57,199
okay so there's a couple things about

2696
01:56:00,950 --> 01:55:59,119
that that you and your listeners need to

2697
01:56:02,310 --> 01:56:00,960
understand number one she started off

2698
01:56:05,830 --> 01:56:02,320
using greek

2699
01:56:09,030 --> 01:56:05,840
greek agathos okay god is good then she

2700
01:56:11,430 --> 01:56:09,040
speaks in english clearly and she talks

2701
01:56:13,270 --> 01:56:11,440
about us living with them we need to

2702
01:56:15,189 --> 01:56:13,280
have a positive attitude while we're

2703
01:56:16,550 --> 01:56:15,199
living with them and you need to

2704
01:56:18,149 --> 01:56:16,560
understand that they've been on this

2705
01:56:20,149 --> 01:56:18,159
planet longer than we've been on this

2706
01:56:23,189 --> 01:56:20,159
planet so they know all our spoken

2707
01:56:25,430 --> 01:56:23,199
languages including the ones we've lost

2708
01:56:28,229 --> 01:56:25,440
throughout our history i have a friend

2709
01:56:30,310 --> 01:56:28,239
in georgia alex menez who has a

2710
01:56:35,350 --> 01:56:30,320
recording of him conversing with the

2711
01:56:40,550 --> 01:56:38,310
how long you just mentioned that how

2712
01:56:42,550 --> 01:56:40,560
long have they been here

2713
01:56:43,750 --> 01:56:42,560
they came over

2714
01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:43,760
during

2715
01:56:48,070 --> 01:56:44,800
the

2716
01:56:49,510 --> 01:56:48,080
last period of our dinosaurs 65 million

2717
01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:49,520
years ago

2718
01:56:52,149 --> 01:56:51,040
approximately

2719
01:56:57,030 --> 01:56:52,159
and

2720
01:56:57,830 --> 01:56:57,040
already dying

2721
01:57:00,390 --> 01:56:57,840
they

2722
01:57:03,350 --> 01:57:00,400
realized that their sun was starting to

2723
01:57:04,790 --> 01:57:03,360
burn out and they had witness on their

2724
01:57:07,830 --> 01:57:04,800
own planet

2725
01:57:11,910 --> 01:57:07,840
aliens um connecting

2726
01:57:15,030 --> 01:57:11,920
planets to planets via um portals

2727
01:57:16,550 --> 01:57:15,040
and so you know they can watch and they

2728
01:57:19,030 --> 01:57:16,560
could be right next to you and you don't

2729
01:57:21,030 --> 01:57:19,040
know they're there and they watch them

2730
01:57:22,709 --> 01:57:21,040
build these portals

2731
01:57:25,589 --> 01:57:22,719
work these portals

2732
01:57:27,750 --> 01:57:25,599
and some of them had the ability to

2733
01:57:30,550 --> 01:57:27,760
manipulate the portals and go through

2734
01:57:33,189 --> 01:57:30,560
the portal so when they realized their

2735
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:33,199
son was dying their own council of 12 on

2736
01:57:37,030 --> 01:57:34,560
their world

2737
01:57:39,669 --> 01:57:37,040
sent out scouts throughout the universe

2738
01:57:41,990 --> 01:57:39,679
to try to find a planet

2739
01:57:44,629 --> 01:57:42,000
that they could um

2740
01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:44,639
move to or at least 25 of their

2741
01:57:49,109 --> 01:57:46,639
population

2742
01:57:52,070 --> 01:57:49,119
that had the ability to

2743
01:57:54,070 --> 01:57:52,080
to manipulate the portals could go to

2744
01:57:55,030 --> 01:57:54,080
and so that's how they ended up on the

2745
01:57:58,229 --> 01:57:55,040
earth

2746
01:58:02,629 --> 01:57:58,239
65 million years ago and the the end of

2747
01:58:04,629 --> 01:58:02,639
that cycle of uh that exodus that was

2748
01:58:07,189 --> 01:58:04,639
with you and steve bachmann

2749
01:58:08,790 --> 01:58:07,199
and mike kincaid my son grady johnson

2750
01:58:12,870 --> 01:58:08,800
right right right

2751
01:58:15,750 --> 01:58:12,880
um and this uh this recording

2752
01:58:18,830 --> 01:58:15,760
uh was done

2753
01:58:20,870 --> 01:58:18,840
about a year ago no two years

2754
01:58:22,070 --> 01:58:20,880
ago right

2755
01:58:23,750 --> 01:58:22,080
yeah

2756
01:58:26,149 --> 01:58:23,760
so come you should be positive about

2757
01:58:28,229 --> 01:58:26,159
living with us yes and the i've only got

2758
01:58:30,070 --> 01:58:28,239
a few seconds left um

2759
01:58:33,109 --> 01:58:30,080
and the melodic scream which was

2760
01:58:35,510 --> 01:58:33,119
beautiful no doubt uh that was july of

2761
01:58:36,550 --> 01:58:35,520
2018 so these are these are fairly

2762
01:58:37,990 --> 01:58:36,560
recent

2763
01:58:38,790 --> 01:58:38,000
oh yeah

2764
01:58:41,510 --> 01:58:38,800
yeah

2765
01:58:44,790 --> 01:58:41,520
it doesn't end i have a ton of

2766
01:58:46,709 --> 01:58:44,800
recordings that i didn't send to you

2767
01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:46,719
i have a ton of evidence that i haven't

2768
01:58:51,189 --> 01:58:48,960
put out there yet let's take our break

2769
01:58:55,750 --> 01:58:51,199
right here our guest tonight dr matthew

2770
01:58:59,430 --> 01:58:57,669
i like that we will take our break right

2771
01:59:09,430 --> 01:58:59,440
here we'll come back and start posting

2772
01:59:17,030 --> 01:59:11,709
hi everybody this

2773
01:59:20,550 --> 01:59:19,510
this is kgra digital broadcasting

2774
01:59:24,229 --> 01:59:20,560
station

2775
01:59:26,070 --> 01:59:24,239
salt lake city utah van buren arkansas

2776
01:59:28,149 --> 01:59:26,080
why is it we're not very good with our

2777
01:59:29,910 --> 01:59:28,159
health regiment until it's too late we

2778
01:59:31,750 --> 01:59:29,920
don't put oil in the car until the

2779
01:59:34,550 --> 01:59:31,760
engine blows up when the body's out of

2780
01:59:36,790 --> 01:59:34,560
balance your health is not so good give

2781
01:59:39,990 --> 01:59:36,800
your body some love log on to get the

2782
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2813
02:01:07,669 --> 02:01:04,719
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2814
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2815
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2816
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2817
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2818
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2819
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2827
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2835
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2836
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when people aren't sure aren't sure

2838
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2839
02:02:13,430 --> 02:02:10,719
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2840
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2841
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and other precious metals are a defense

2842
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2844
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2856
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2857
02:03:13,030 --> 02:03:09,280
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2858
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2859
02:03:16,629 --> 02:03:14,400
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2860
02:03:17,990 --> 02:03:16,639
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2861
02:03:20,070 --> 02:03:18,000
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2862
02:03:26,550 --> 02:03:20,080
why fade to black

2863
02:03:31,270 --> 02:03:28,709
this is fade to black with jimmy church

2864
02:03:35,910 --> 02:03:31,280
on the game changer radio network and

2865
02:03:51,430 --> 02:03:35,920
kgra the global radio alliance

2866
02:03:53,030 --> 02:03:51,440
[Music]

2867
02:03:54,550 --> 02:03:53,040
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

2868
02:03:56,390 --> 02:03:54,560
jimmy church our guest tonight dr

2869
02:04:00,470 --> 02:03:56,400
matthew johnson

2870
02:04:03,750 --> 02:04:00,480
we're discussing the reality of bigfoot

2871
02:04:05,510 --> 02:04:03,760
now we just went through uh a bunch of

2872
02:04:07,830 --> 02:04:05,520
audio files in the last segment

2873
02:04:10,149 --> 02:04:07,840
absolutely fascinating

2874
02:04:12,870 --> 02:04:10,159
and now we're going to go through we've

2875
02:04:14,870 --> 02:04:12,880
got quite a few images here

2876
02:04:17,030 --> 02:04:14,880
and um

2877
02:04:18,870 --> 02:04:17,040
uh now i'm gonna set this up for matthew

2878
02:04:19,830 --> 02:04:18,880
i've already posted them up in in

2879
02:04:22,629 --> 02:04:19,840
twitter

2880
02:04:27,189 --> 02:04:22,639
and it says first set four of four

2881
02:04:28,149 --> 02:04:27,199
and these images matthew are the one

2882
02:04:31,189 --> 02:04:28,159
uh

2883
02:04:35,430 --> 02:04:31,199
a

2884
02:04:39,669 --> 02:04:35,440
trees

2885
02:04:41,030 --> 02:04:39,679
and then you've done um some

2886
02:04:43,669 --> 02:04:41,040
enhancement

2887
02:04:44,790 --> 02:04:43,679
of that original photograph now i'm

2888
02:04:46,629 --> 02:04:44,800
pulling up

2889
02:04:48,390 --> 02:04:46,639
the original photograph here it's

2890
02:04:51,270 --> 02:04:48,400
labeled 111

2891
02:04:53,270 --> 02:04:51,280
and you can you can clearly see between

2892
02:04:56,470 --> 02:04:53,280
the two trees

2893
02:04:58,069 --> 02:04:56,480
something is back there right and

2894
02:05:01,030 --> 02:04:58,079
um now

2895
02:05:03,270 --> 02:05:01,040
my question is this

2896
02:05:05,109 --> 02:05:03,280
in these images

2897
02:05:10,709 --> 02:05:05,119
is the head

2898
02:05:16,310 --> 02:05:13,990
i i apologize i wish i knew which

2899
02:05:19,430 --> 02:05:16,320
pictures you were looking at

2900
02:05:21,430 --> 02:05:19,440
i is there some way that i can see

2901
02:05:24,310 --> 02:05:21,440
the pictures that are showing there if

2902
02:05:25,430 --> 02:05:24,320
you go to my twitter feed

2903
02:05:27,669 --> 02:05:25,440
f2b

2904
02:05:30,470 --> 02:05:27,679
you can see them

2905
02:05:33,510 --> 02:05:30,480
yeah unfortunately i apologize i'm not

2906
02:05:35,270 --> 02:05:33,520
on twitter well it looks

2907
02:05:37,589 --> 02:05:35,280
my

2908
02:05:41,189 --> 02:05:37,599
talking about this one

2909
02:05:47,189 --> 02:05:42,069
no

2910
02:05:51,589 --> 02:05:50,069
it's it's it's two trees

2911
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:51,599
and then

2912
02:05:55,669 --> 02:05:54,330
bigfoot is standing there

2913
02:05:56,790 --> 02:05:55,679
[Music]

2914
02:05:58,709 --> 02:05:56,800
and

2915
02:06:06,629 --> 02:05:58,719
no

2916
02:06:09,270 --> 02:06:06,639
is the enlar oh show me that again

2917
02:06:14,270 --> 02:06:09,280
okay um

2918
02:06:19,669 --> 02:06:18,470
no no that's not it it's two trees two

2919
02:06:22,629 --> 02:06:19,679
trees

2920
02:06:24,390 --> 02:06:22,639
right in the the first image

2921
02:06:27,910 --> 02:06:24,400
is two trees

2922
02:06:30,550 --> 02:06:29,189
no

2923
02:06:32,550 --> 02:06:30,560
we'll get to that

2924
02:06:34,390 --> 02:06:32,560
well i have a lot of pictures yes yes

2925
02:06:36,629 --> 02:06:34,400
yes i have a lot of pictures so go ahead

2926
02:06:39,109 --> 02:06:36,639
and describe what i am going to tell you

2927
02:06:42,229 --> 02:06:39,119
is all these pictures that i sent to you

2928
02:06:44,390 --> 02:06:42,239
were taken on our former property that

2929
02:06:46,709 --> 02:06:44,400
we just moved away from

2930
02:06:49,189 --> 02:06:46,719
and all these pictures that you're

2931
02:06:52,470 --> 02:06:49,199
sharing with your listeners

2932
02:06:54,470 --> 02:06:52,480
were taken within 100 feet of our house

2933
02:06:57,270 --> 02:06:54,480
it looks like okay

2934
02:06:59,510 --> 02:06:57,280
this is what i said see i i really need

2935
02:07:02,390 --> 02:06:59,520
your your help on this

2936
02:07:03,510 --> 02:07:02,400
it looks like bigfoot's

2937
02:07:04,950 --> 02:07:03,520
head

2938
02:07:07,669 --> 02:07:04,960
is

2939
02:07:08,550 --> 02:07:07,679
lighter in color than the body

2940
02:07:10,310 --> 02:07:08,560
okay

2941
02:07:12,069 --> 02:07:10,320
is that uh

2942
02:07:13,750 --> 02:07:12,079
i feel like now since you don't

2943
02:07:17,109 --> 02:07:13,760
understand i'm

2944
02:07:19,270 --> 02:07:17,119
not seeing this correctly

2945
02:07:20,629 --> 02:07:19,280
yeah and i apologize unless i see the

2946
02:07:23,030 --> 02:07:20,639
picture i

2947
02:07:25,189 --> 02:07:23,040
can't really comment other than just to

2948
02:07:27,990 --> 02:07:25,199
tell your listeners that they were all

2949
02:07:30,390 --> 02:07:28,000
taken on our property within a hundred

2950
02:07:33,589 --> 02:07:30,400
feet of our house

2951
02:07:35,830 --> 02:07:33,599
words of the encouragement are once

2952
02:07:37,910 --> 02:07:35,840
again as i said earlier in a different

2953
02:07:40,629 --> 02:07:37,920
segment you don't have to go way deep in

2954
02:07:42,470 --> 02:07:40,639
the world to come and

2955
02:07:45,350 --> 02:07:42,480
if you have trees in your backyard you

2956
02:07:47,750 --> 02:07:45,360
can start right there okay i am going to

2957
02:07:50,390 --> 02:07:47,760
do this i'm going to

2958
02:07:51,830 --> 02:07:50,400
uh send you the pictures i need i need

2959
02:07:54,149 --> 02:07:51,840
clarification

2960
02:07:55,510 --> 02:07:54,159
i need to know what's going on with this

2961
02:07:57,669 --> 02:07:55,520
so okay

2962
02:07:58,790 --> 02:07:57,679
just uh let me do this i have the

2963
02:08:01,109 --> 02:07:58,800
ability

2964
02:08:02,069 --> 02:08:01,119
to do a couple of things

2965
02:08:03,270 --> 02:08:02,079
this one

2966
02:08:06,550 --> 02:08:03,280
um

2967
02:08:10,709 --> 02:08:07,430
uh

2968
02:08:13,270 --> 02:08:10,719
no okay so just stay right there

2969
02:08:16,550 --> 02:08:13,280
and i am going to drop these this is

2970
02:08:21,060 --> 02:08:17,830
okay

2971
02:08:31,830 --> 02:08:22,470
[Music]

2972
02:08:34,950 --> 02:08:31,840
is it still uploading

2973
02:08:38,149 --> 02:08:34,960
oh here it is okay i have it here okay

2974
02:08:41,669 --> 02:08:38,159
now stay there matthew

2975
02:08:44,149 --> 02:08:41,679
i'm gonna drop this into our little chat

2976
02:08:48,629 --> 02:08:44,159
and this is the

2977
02:08:48,639 --> 02:08:52,360
here

2978
02:08:56,790 --> 02:08:54,229
[Music]

2979
02:08:57,830 --> 02:08:56,800
and i got fast computers okay

2980
02:08:59,510 --> 02:08:57,840
now

2981
02:09:02,629 --> 02:08:59,520
check out the chat

2982
02:09:06,310 --> 02:09:04,629
oh okay

2983
02:09:08,790 --> 02:09:06,320
yes that one

2984
02:09:11,510 --> 02:09:08,800
so that was actually up in the area area

2985
02:09:14,550 --> 02:09:11,520
of the oregon caves and it's between two

2986
02:09:17,350 --> 02:09:14,560
trees but that's also the bigger picture

2987
02:09:19,270 --> 02:09:17,360
near an x there's an x nearby

2988
02:09:22,069 --> 02:09:19,280
so i don't know if you have that larger

2989
02:09:24,310 --> 02:09:22,079
picture that i believe i sent to you

2990
02:09:26,790 --> 02:09:24,320
associated with that picture but

2991
02:09:29,189 --> 02:09:26,800
that was driving off the mountain coming

2992
02:09:32,310 --> 02:09:29,199
down the road we actually stopped

2993
02:09:33,589 --> 02:09:32,320
to take pictures with the giant x in the

2994
02:09:34,629 --> 02:09:33,599
background

2995
02:09:36,950 --> 02:09:34,639
and then

2996
02:09:39,189 --> 02:09:36,960
somebody noticed that later in when we

2997
02:09:41,189 --> 02:09:39,199
were zooming in on the picks

2998
02:09:44,629 --> 02:09:41,199
that that um happened to be there so

2999
02:09:46,709 --> 02:09:44,639
that was not in our backyard okay now

3000
02:09:49,990 --> 02:09:46,719
look at the second image that's the

3001
02:09:53,990 --> 02:09:50,000
third enhanced one yes that looks to me

3002
02:09:57,589 --> 02:09:54,000
like bigfoot's head is a different color

3003
02:09:59,669 --> 02:09:57,599
well it's it's got flesh the skin color

3004
02:10:00,390 --> 02:09:59,679
is different than the darker hair color

3005
02:10:03,350 --> 02:10:00,400
right

3006
02:10:05,669 --> 02:10:03,360
the whole head is not all hairy

3007
02:10:07,109 --> 02:10:05,679
right that's that's my point this is

3008
02:10:09,430 --> 02:10:07,119
fascinating

3009
02:10:10,629 --> 02:10:09,440
now is this is this

3010
02:10:13,270 --> 02:10:10,639
um

3011
02:10:15,910 --> 02:10:13,280
is this what genre looks like

3012
02:10:18,149 --> 02:10:15,920
well okay so you need to think about

3013
02:10:20,870 --> 02:10:18,159
them the same way

3014
02:10:22,310 --> 02:10:20,880
about us humans right right we all look

3015
02:10:24,950 --> 02:10:22,320
different we all come in different

3016
02:10:27,830 --> 02:10:24,960
shapes and sizes different colors

3017
02:10:29,189 --> 02:10:27,840
different um skull shapes nose shapes

3018
02:10:32,069 --> 02:10:29,199
chin shapes

3019
02:10:32,950 --> 02:10:32,079
so they're equally diverse in their

3020
02:10:34,629 --> 02:10:32,960
appearance

3021
02:10:37,109 --> 02:10:34,639
[Music]

3022
02:10:39,669 --> 02:10:37,119
this is just fascinating to me

3023
02:10:42,310 --> 02:10:39,679
absolutely fascinating okay so now i'm

3024
02:10:45,750 --> 02:10:42,320
going to uh

3025
02:10:47,430 --> 02:10:45,760
send you the next image this

3026
02:10:49,350 --> 02:10:47,440
let me look at the clock man i knew we

3027
02:10:50,950 --> 02:10:49,360
were going to run out of time and we are

3028
02:10:53,830 --> 02:10:50,960
already there

3029
02:10:57,270 --> 02:10:53,840
um this next image

3030
02:11:00,069 --> 02:10:58,629
this one

3031
02:11:02,069 --> 02:11:00,079
i'm gonna send this to you so you know

3032
02:11:08,229 --> 02:11:02,079
which one we're talking about

3033
02:11:11,990 --> 02:11:10,870
and this one to me is crazy town this is

3034
02:11:13,109 --> 02:11:12,000
excellent

3035
02:11:14,310 --> 02:11:13,119
okay

3036
02:11:15,669 --> 02:11:14,320
so

3037
02:11:17,270 --> 02:11:15,679
next yes

3038
02:11:19,669 --> 02:11:17,280
that's a young one

3039
02:11:20,550 --> 02:11:19,679
probably about 75 feet away from our

3040
02:11:23,669 --> 02:11:20,560
house

3041
02:11:25,430 --> 02:11:23,679
um back in the trees i was given a mind

3042
02:11:28,709 --> 02:11:25,440
speak a lot of the pictures that i have

3043
02:11:31,270 --> 02:11:28,719
of them in our backyard i was asked to

3044
02:11:33,990 --> 02:11:31,280
take pictures now remember when i told

3045
02:11:36,790 --> 02:11:34,000
you they vibrate at a higher frequency

3046
02:11:40,470 --> 02:11:36,800
than our eyes can see but cats and dogs

3047
02:11:43,109 --> 02:11:40,480
can see them cameras can capture them so

3048
02:11:44,470 --> 02:11:43,119
i took pictures because i was asked to

3049
02:11:48,310 --> 02:11:44,480
take pictures

3050
02:11:51,109 --> 02:11:48,320
but i did not see them but the camera

3051
02:11:53,430 --> 02:11:51,119
captured them

3052
02:11:54,470 --> 02:11:53,440
the uh and what's the distance on this

3053
02:11:59,189 --> 02:11:54,480
one

3054
02:12:01,750 --> 02:11:59,199
was about 75 feet away from the house

3055
02:12:04,629 --> 02:12:01,760
probably about

3056
02:12:06,629 --> 02:12:04,639
50 60 feet away from me and that's kind

3057
02:12:09,189 --> 02:12:06,639
of enlarged because

3058
02:12:11,830 --> 02:12:09,199
the pitcher is you know farther back and

3059
02:12:13,189 --> 02:12:11,840
i had to zoom in and large zoom in and

3060
02:12:15,430 --> 02:12:13,199
large

3061
02:12:19,750 --> 02:12:15,440
to to pull this out

3062
02:12:22,950 --> 02:12:19,760
okay the next one i'm calling this the

3063
02:12:24,470 --> 02:12:22,960
and it is you know the pickup truck with

3064
02:12:26,310 --> 02:12:24,480
the generator

3065
02:12:27,990 --> 02:12:26,320
oh yeah yeah yeah so that one's coming

3066
02:12:29,350 --> 02:12:28,000
up next because we've been talking about

3067
02:12:32,709 --> 02:12:29,360
this all night

3068
02:12:34,550 --> 02:12:32,719
and now everybody can see now i've seen

3069
02:12:36,550 --> 02:12:34,560
the generator before but i've never

3070
02:12:38,550 --> 02:12:36,560
published a picture

3071
02:12:41,270 --> 02:12:38,560
and uh

3072
02:12:43,270 --> 02:12:41,280
and so now it's up now if do you need to

3073
02:12:45,430 --> 02:12:43,280
see this picture or no i don't need to

3074
02:12:48,550 --> 02:12:45,440
see that picture okay so that's pictures

3075
02:12:51,589 --> 02:12:48,560
of myself steve bachman and mike kinkade

3076
02:12:53,350 --> 02:12:51,599
and that's up at the southern oregon

3077
02:12:56,709 --> 02:12:53,360
interaction area

3078
02:12:59,830 --> 02:12:56,719
the morning before the night of the

3079
02:13:01,350 --> 02:12:59,840
exodus and what was so great when steve

3080
02:13:04,550 --> 02:13:01,360
was on the show

3081
02:13:07,030 --> 02:13:04,560
um he describes the generator but i

3082
02:13:09,430 --> 02:13:07,040
don't believe we posted pictures of it

3083
02:13:11,750 --> 02:13:09,440
um but uh

3084
02:13:12,950 --> 02:13:11,760
you know how it ran the problem with the

3085
02:13:15,990 --> 02:13:12,960
batteries

3086
02:13:19,109 --> 02:13:16,000
yes right that whole thing yeah so uh

3087
02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:19,119
describe uh to everybody uh the

3088
02:13:23,669 --> 02:13:21,199
generator which is sitting on the

3089
02:13:26,069 --> 02:13:23,679
tailgate so there are two deep cycle

3090
02:13:28,790 --> 02:13:26,079
marine batteries that draws energy from

3091
02:13:31,189 --> 02:13:28,800
that through the inverter to the wheeled

3092
02:13:34,390 --> 02:13:31,199
device the wheeled device has 16

3093
02:13:36,709 --> 02:13:34,400
powerful magnets when it spins around it

3094
02:13:38,950 --> 02:13:36,719
generates free energy when you're

3095
02:13:41,910 --> 02:13:38,960
standing near it you can feel that

3096
02:13:44,790 --> 02:13:41,920
energy pulsating off the device

3097
02:13:46,629 --> 02:13:44,800
okay and with that energy it cycles it

3098
02:13:48,390 --> 02:13:46,639
back through the inverter back to the

3099
02:13:51,589 --> 02:13:48,400
batteries and keeps the batteries

3100
02:13:53,430 --> 02:13:51,599
charged so essentially the batteries do

3101
02:13:56,069 --> 02:13:53,440
not run out of juice

3102
02:14:00,149 --> 02:13:56,079
while it's creating free energy

3103
02:14:03,750 --> 02:14:00,159
additional energy okay and steve tested

3104
02:14:04,790 --> 02:14:03,760
it and ran it and it the batteries never

3105
02:14:09,510 --> 02:14:04,800
ever

3106
02:14:12,790 --> 02:14:09,520
first night we ran it for two and a half

3107
02:14:14,870 --> 02:14:12,800
hours and the batteries died

3108
02:14:17,430 --> 02:14:14,880
it was like what the heck steve was

3109
02:14:19,350 --> 02:14:17,440
perplexed well it turns out

3110
02:14:22,149 --> 02:14:19,360
that you know and they managed to bring

3111
02:14:24,229 --> 02:14:22,159
a couple thousand over that first night

3112
02:14:25,270 --> 02:14:24,239
and it turns out that they were drawing

3113
02:14:28,229 --> 02:14:25,280
energy

3114
02:14:30,709 --> 02:14:28,239
from the magnet magnetic pulsating

3115
02:14:32,790 --> 02:14:30,719
device the wheel and from the batteries

3116
02:14:34,709 --> 02:14:32,800
so they drain the batteries well then

3117
02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:34,719
steve had to go home the next day so

3118
02:14:38,470 --> 02:14:36,000
mike and i

3119
02:14:40,310 --> 02:14:38,480
went to auto parts store and got more

3120
02:14:42,390 --> 02:14:40,320
batteries

3121
02:14:45,430 --> 02:14:42,400
and charged them all up and went back up

3122
02:14:46,310 --> 02:14:45,440
to the mountain and we decided to start

3123
02:14:49,750 --> 02:14:46,320
with

3124
02:14:52,950 --> 02:14:49,760
steve bachman's two batteries

3125
02:14:56,229 --> 02:14:52,960
that drained and we recharged

3126
02:14:58,870 --> 02:14:56,239
fully and

3127
02:15:01,189 --> 02:14:58,880
the genu heard us talking about and

3128
02:15:02,550 --> 02:15:01,199
speculating why those batteries got

3129
02:15:04,629 --> 02:15:02,560
drained and we told them leave the

3130
02:15:07,430 --> 02:15:04,639
batteries alone just take the energy off

3131
02:15:09,030 --> 02:15:07,440
the wheel so that next night it ran for

3132
02:15:11,830 --> 02:15:09,040
several hours

3133
02:15:14,069 --> 02:15:11,840
and those same batteries

3134
02:15:15,109 --> 02:15:14,079
that drained within two hours the first

3135
02:15:18,470 --> 02:15:15,119
night

3136
02:15:20,149 --> 02:15:18,480
kept going and going and going for hours

3137
02:15:23,109 --> 02:15:20,159
and were fully charged when the whole

3138
02:15:27,030 --> 02:15:23,119
exodus was over with because they left

3139
02:15:29,510 --> 02:15:27,040
the batteries alone now how did you

3140
02:15:33,030 --> 02:15:29,520
figure out because you know this is a

3141
02:15:36,390 --> 02:15:33,040
tesla device based on a tesla design

3142
02:15:39,589 --> 02:15:36,400
um but tesla didn't design this to be a

3143
02:15:42,390 --> 02:15:39,599
portal between planets right well and it

3144
02:15:45,430 --> 02:15:42,400
didn't create the portal it gave them

3145
02:15:47,910 --> 02:15:45,440
the energy to keep the portals open on

3146
02:15:49,830 --> 02:15:47,920
both ends now that's my question though

3147
02:15:51,830 --> 02:15:49,840
okay so you answered the question before

3148
02:15:52,950 --> 02:15:51,840
i asked the question so let's okay let's

3149
02:15:56,229 --> 02:15:52,960
back up

3150
02:16:01,430 --> 02:15:56,239
how how did you figure out

3151
02:16:03,030 --> 02:16:01,440
that the byproduct of this uh tesla

3152
02:16:06,550 --> 02:16:03,040
device

3153
02:16:10,069 --> 02:16:06,560
was able to power the portals

3154
02:16:12,629 --> 02:16:10,079
able to empower the john new to keep the

3155
02:16:13,669 --> 02:16:12,639
portals open correct

3156
02:16:14,470 --> 02:16:13,679
okay

3157
02:16:17,270 --> 02:16:14,480
um

3158
02:16:22,310 --> 02:16:19,990
when adam davies and john carlson were

3159
02:16:25,350 --> 02:16:22,320
visiting the southern oregon habituation

3160
02:16:27,910 --> 02:16:25,360
area in 2014

3161
02:16:29,910 --> 02:16:27,920
they accidentally stumbled onto a portal

3162
02:16:31,830 --> 02:16:29,920
in the area i had been there for eight

3163
02:16:34,469 --> 02:16:31,840
years i saw a light flashing on the

3164
02:16:36,549 --> 02:16:34,479
trees in front of me figuring a car was

3165
02:16:38,469 --> 02:16:36,559
driving up the logging road behind me i

3166
02:16:39,910 --> 02:16:38,479
turned around there was no vehicle i

3167
02:16:41,669 --> 02:16:39,920
could never figure out where this

3168
02:16:43,589 --> 02:16:41,679
flashing light on the trees in front of

3169
02:16:45,349 --> 02:16:43,599
me was coming from you know it was

3170
02:16:48,070 --> 02:16:45,359
coming from behind but i never saw the

3171
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:48,080
source so they stumbled onto a portal

3172
02:16:52,950 --> 02:16:50,319
there was all this portal incident

3173
02:16:55,429 --> 02:16:52,960
through haha and there's

3174
02:16:57,110 --> 02:16:55,439
some misunderstanding on their part as

3175
02:16:59,830 --> 02:16:57,120
far as what the portal was really all

3176
02:17:02,230 --> 02:16:59,840
about you know i'm saying it's all tied

3177
02:17:05,110 --> 02:17:02,240
together they're saying that one end of

3178
02:17:06,870 --> 02:17:05,120
the of the cul-de-sac was activity with

3179
02:17:09,669 --> 02:17:06,880
bigfoot on the other end of the

3180
02:17:12,230 --> 02:17:09,679
cul-de-sac was a portal and a gateway to

3181
02:17:14,389 --> 02:17:12,240
hell with demons how lucky am i i should

3182
02:17:16,629 --> 02:17:14,399
buy a lottery ticket i have all this

3183
02:17:18,790 --> 02:17:16,639
stuff going on in one place at one time

3184
02:17:20,309 --> 02:17:18,800
well it wasn't a portal to hell with

3185
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:20,319
demons so anyway

3186
02:17:26,150 --> 02:17:22,960
i managed after a year to problem solve

3187
02:17:29,030 --> 02:17:26,160
and figure out how to reopen the portal

3188
02:17:31,030 --> 02:17:29,040
and then i reopened the portal several

3189
02:17:33,589 --> 02:17:31,040
times over the following summer with

3190
02:17:36,629 --> 02:17:33,599
several witnesses with me

3191
02:17:38,709 --> 02:17:36,639
okay and so the jean knew

3192
02:17:40,709 --> 02:17:38,719
you know we're pleased that i finally

3193
02:17:43,030 --> 02:17:40,719
figured out how to reopen the portals

3194
02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:43,040
and then they asked for my help to put

3195
02:17:47,830 --> 02:17:45,200
together a team to

3196
02:17:48,950 --> 02:17:47,840
to help them with the exodus and i'm

3197
02:17:51,270 --> 02:17:48,960
like i'm

3198
02:17:53,589 --> 02:17:51,280
you know i'm a psychologist

3199
02:17:55,589 --> 02:17:53,599
i'm all thumbs when it comes to my hands

3200
02:17:58,309 --> 02:17:55,599
and making things but i can i know

3201
02:18:01,669 --> 02:17:58,319
people i can put a team together well i

3202
02:18:03,990 --> 02:18:01,679
was on coast coast am

3203
02:18:05,830 --> 02:18:04,000
and i talked about

3204
02:18:07,830 --> 02:18:05,840
the whole portal thing

3205
02:18:10,790 --> 02:18:07,840
and robert golka

3206
02:18:14,230 --> 02:18:10,800
retired mit physicist

3207
02:18:16,469 --> 02:18:14,240
heard the program contacted me

3208
02:18:19,030 --> 02:18:16,479
said he had been researching the

3209
02:18:21,349 --> 02:18:19,040
bermuda triangle

3210
02:18:23,830 --> 02:18:21,359
and there was a similar portal

3211
02:18:26,549 --> 02:18:23,840
phenomenon there that fit what i was

3212
02:18:28,790 --> 02:18:26,559
describing about so and he wanted to

3213
02:18:30,870 --> 02:18:28,800
learn more and so i told him about

3214
02:18:32,549 --> 02:18:30,880
portals bigfoot blah blah blah he said

3215
02:18:34,629 --> 02:18:32,559
okay i'd like to help you

3216
02:18:36,549 --> 02:18:34,639
but then it turned out like a week later

3217
02:18:39,190 --> 02:18:36,559
he wanted to kill a bigfoot and bring

3218
02:18:42,389 --> 02:18:39,200
the body in which totally wiped that out

3219
02:18:45,030 --> 02:18:42,399
and then so i'm like back to square one

3220
02:18:48,230 --> 02:18:45,040
i don't have my team i thought i had an

3221
02:18:50,709 --> 02:18:48,240
mit physicist on my team right but now

3222
02:18:52,950 --> 02:18:50,719
i've got nobody and then out of the blue

3223
02:18:54,709 --> 02:18:52,960
i get this email from steve bachman

3224
02:18:55,750 --> 02:18:54,719
saying i've been watching your youtube

3225
02:18:57,750 --> 02:18:55,760
channels

3226
02:19:00,150 --> 02:18:57,760
and you're one of the two people i

3227
02:19:02,389 --> 02:19:00,160
believe who are legit and i would like

3228
02:19:04,870 --> 02:19:02,399
to come down to your area

3229
02:19:07,349 --> 02:19:04,880
and so oh by the way he attaches a

3230
02:19:09,910 --> 02:19:07,359
picture of this electromagnetic

3231
02:19:12,150 --> 02:19:09,920
pulsating device based off tesla's

3232
02:19:14,549 --> 02:19:12,160
design and i'm going whoa

3233
02:19:17,830 --> 02:19:14,559
yes i'd love for you to come down

3234
02:19:19,110 --> 02:19:17,840
and um so steve bachmann goes from being

3235
02:19:22,629 --> 02:19:19,120
youtube

3236
02:19:25,270 --> 02:19:22,639
viewer researcher to smack dab in the

3237
02:19:29,429 --> 02:19:25,280
middle of the exodus so he's going like

3238
02:19:31,270 --> 02:19:29,439
120 miles per hour in 2.5 seconds

3239
02:19:33,509 --> 02:19:31,280
from behind the computer screen to the

3240
02:19:36,870 --> 02:19:33,519
exodus imagine what that was like for

3241
02:19:39,110 --> 02:19:36,880
him yeah amazing absolutely absolutely

3242
02:19:42,150 --> 02:19:39,120
um this next uh

3243
02:19:46,389 --> 02:19:42,160
series of photographs

3244
02:19:47,349 --> 02:19:46,399
um i have called the x's

3245
02:19:50,790 --> 02:19:47,359
and

3246
02:19:53,670 --> 02:19:50,800
uh you sent them to me as a set of exes

3247
02:19:56,150 --> 02:19:53,680
so i think i've got this correct

3248
02:19:59,349 --> 02:19:56,160
everybody if i don't i'll post some more

3249
02:20:04,309 --> 02:19:59,359
but let me go with these four

3250
02:20:05,750 --> 02:20:04,319
uh right now and here we go with the x's

3251
02:20:08,230 --> 02:20:05,760
which we have been talking about all

3252
02:20:09,429 --> 02:20:08,240
night now uh let's set this up for

3253
02:20:11,110 --> 02:20:09,439
everybody

3254
02:20:13,510 --> 02:20:11,120
uh what is

3255
02:20:16,150 --> 02:20:13,520
what is an x

3256
02:20:18,389 --> 02:20:16,160
the x is a symbolic marker of their

3257
02:20:19,670 --> 02:20:18,399
territory so if you're out in your own

3258
02:20:22,230 --> 02:20:19,680
backyard

3259
02:20:25,030 --> 02:20:22,240
in the greenbelt behind your subdivision

3260
02:20:26,950 --> 02:20:25,040
or deep in the forest and you find

3261
02:20:28,550 --> 02:20:26,960
x's okay

3262
02:20:31,750 --> 02:20:28,560
they're there that's saying they're

3263
02:20:35,110 --> 02:20:31,760
there but that x is also

3264
02:20:39,510 --> 02:20:35,120
um the greek symbol for chi

3265
02:20:42,870 --> 02:20:39,520
c h i not not chi or chai or whatever

3266
02:20:46,389 --> 02:20:42,880
not the asian version but the greek

3267
02:20:49,670 --> 02:20:46,399
symbol chi which represents christ

3268
02:20:52,790 --> 02:20:49,680
okay which is why back to syria earlier

3269
02:20:55,110 --> 02:20:52,800
saying agathos which is greek for god is

3270
02:20:56,630 --> 02:20:55,120
good oh come you should be positive

3271
02:20:59,510 --> 02:20:56,640
about living with us

3272
02:21:02,630 --> 02:20:59,520
the x there are people of faith there

3273
02:21:05,510 --> 02:21:02,640
are people of christ the x

3274
02:21:08,389 --> 02:21:05,520
represents that and represents that they

3275
02:21:09,190 --> 02:21:08,399
are there so if you see the x they're

3276
02:21:10,950 --> 02:21:09,200
there

3277
02:21:13,670 --> 02:21:10,960
they're in your backyard they're in your

3278
02:21:16,469 --> 02:21:13,680
greenbelt they're they're in the forest

3279
02:21:18,870 --> 02:21:16,479
where you're looking around for them

3280
02:21:21,750 --> 02:21:18,880
and these these are big trees i mean

3281
02:21:25,510 --> 02:21:21,760
these aren't these aren't small and

3282
02:21:26,790 --> 02:21:25,520
um i i've seen numerous it's so of you

3283
02:21:28,389 --> 02:21:26,800
and some of them have been your

3284
02:21:29,590 --> 02:21:28,399
photographs but i've seen numerous

3285
02:21:30,550 --> 02:21:29,600
pictures

3286
02:21:33,349 --> 02:21:30,560
where

3287
02:21:36,150 --> 02:21:33,359
humans aren't doing these arrangements

3288
02:21:37,590 --> 02:21:36,160
no no they're they're just too big

3289
02:21:42,309 --> 02:21:37,600
exactly

3290
02:21:44,870 --> 02:21:42,319
and uh there's also i posted um

3291
02:21:47,270 --> 02:21:44,880
uh the picture that i think is one of

3292
02:21:48,630 --> 02:21:47,280
the best ones here i took a picture like

3293
02:21:52,870 --> 02:21:48,640
this myself

3294
02:21:55,030 --> 02:21:52,880
which is uh the 22-inch uh footprint

3295
02:21:57,590 --> 02:21:55,040
with the puma sock

3296
02:22:00,309 --> 02:21:57,600
yeah yeah yeah yeah okay so i i have a

3297
02:22:02,950 --> 02:22:00,319
size i'm six foot nine inches tall i

3298
02:22:04,870 --> 02:22:02,960
played college basketball i was asked to

3299
02:22:06,950 --> 02:22:04,880
try out for the new jersey nets in the

3300
02:22:09,030 --> 02:22:06,960
nba i turned them down to go after my

3301
02:22:11,190 --> 02:22:09,040
doctorate degree so you know i have

3302
02:22:13,349 --> 02:22:11,200
large hands i have large feet my feet

3303
02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:13,359
are size 16

3304
02:22:19,110 --> 02:22:16,720
they measure 14 and a half inches long

3305
02:22:21,910 --> 02:22:19,120
so i don't have a tiny little itty bitty

3306
02:22:23,270 --> 02:22:21,920
foot yet when you look at that cast next

3307
02:22:25,910 --> 02:22:23,280
to my foot

3308
02:22:27,590 --> 02:22:25,920
looks like i'm you know have a baby foot

3309
02:22:29,670 --> 02:22:27,600
that was a huge

3310
02:22:32,309 --> 02:22:29,680
footprint and then when you look at

3311
02:22:34,309 --> 02:22:32,319
source track which i didn't send it to

3312
02:22:35,510 --> 02:22:34,319
you i'm just telling you that one's 22

3313
02:22:42,630 --> 02:22:35,520
inches long

3314
02:22:44,750 --> 02:22:42,640
you're looking at

3315
02:22:46,630 --> 02:22:44,760
do you still have a jump shot

3316
02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:46,640
[Music]

3317
02:22:51,429 --> 02:22:49,120
you know what um those days have come

3318
02:22:54,389 --> 02:22:51,439
and gone but i used to be able to shoot

3319
02:22:56,870 --> 02:22:54,399
a three-point shot with about 70 percent

3320
02:22:58,950 --> 02:22:56,880
accuracy which is why the nets asked me

3321
02:23:01,830 --> 02:22:58,960
to try out for this yeah but that was

3322
02:23:03,030 --> 02:23:01,840
long ago yeah you know i was raised in

3323
02:23:06,150 --> 02:23:03,040
indiana

3324
02:23:08,389 --> 02:23:06,160
and oh everybody everybody's got a jump

3325
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:08,399
shot yep yep you know i was just too

3326
02:23:11,510 --> 02:23:10,000
short

3327
02:23:13,349 --> 02:23:11,520
we could do we can we can talk

3328
02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:13,359
basketball all night

3329
02:23:18,630 --> 02:23:17,359
and uh now i want to uh get uh this next

3330
02:23:21,750 --> 02:23:18,640
image

3331
02:23:24,150 --> 02:23:21,760
is uh you've got two others let me get

3332
02:23:25,670 --> 02:23:24,160
this up everybody really quick

3333
02:23:28,230 --> 02:23:25,680
next set

3334
02:23:30,870 --> 02:23:28,240
you've got um

3335
02:23:34,870 --> 02:23:30,880
some images here of

3336
02:23:37,349 --> 02:23:34,880
foot prints on display some cast right

3337
02:23:39,590 --> 02:23:37,359
yes and uh so we're gonna do that and

3338
02:23:40,710 --> 02:23:39,600
then you've got another

3339
02:23:43,670 --> 02:23:40,720
uh

3340
02:23:45,270 --> 02:23:43,680
image of two tennis shoes and a

3341
02:23:47,270 --> 02:23:45,280
footprint

3342
02:23:50,550 --> 02:23:47,280
yes that one was in the backyard of the

3343
02:23:52,710 --> 02:23:50,560
house we just left that's my shoe and

3344
02:23:55,349 --> 02:23:52,720
cynthia's shoe and that's of an

3345
02:23:59,110 --> 02:23:55,359
adolescent one that on

3346
02:24:01,990 --> 02:23:59,120
a set of casts inside the display box is

3347
02:24:05,990 --> 02:24:02,000
from the family from the southern oregon

3348
02:24:08,150 --> 02:24:06,000
habituation area dad mom the adolescent

3349
02:24:09,990 --> 02:24:08,160
the child and the juvenile

3350
02:24:10,950 --> 02:24:10,000
and is that your

3351
02:24:14,469 --> 02:24:10,960
shoe

3352
02:24:18,230 --> 02:24:14,479
mean i mean

3353
02:24:22,309 --> 02:24:18,240
you've got a big foot man i just said it

3354
02:24:25,590 --> 02:24:22,319
you just said it out loud but um uh

3355
02:24:26,469 --> 02:24:25,600
what's most interesting in this display

3356
02:24:28,870 --> 02:24:26,479
though

3357
02:24:31,750 --> 02:24:28,880
and then the and the casts are great but

3358
02:24:33,990 --> 02:24:31,760
the one with the toes

3359
02:24:36,710 --> 02:24:34,000
what what's going on with that do i see

3360
02:24:39,830 --> 02:24:36,720
only four toes

3361
02:24:41,429 --> 02:24:39,840
you know um no there should be five toes

3362
02:24:43,670 --> 02:24:41,439
there i'm gonna have to pull the picture

3363
02:24:44,550 --> 02:24:43,680
up on my phone but

3364
02:24:46,710 --> 02:24:44,560
ah

3365
02:24:49,349 --> 02:24:46,720
come on

3366
02:24:51,349 --> 02:24:49,359
i'm almost there there we are

3367
02:24:53,030 --> 02:24:51,359
okay

3368
02:24:55,349 --> 02:24:53,040
and you're talking about the one in the

3369
02:25:00,309 --> 02:24:55,359
upper right hand corner yes

3370
02:25:03,110 --> 02:25:00,319
okay so one two three four um

3371
02:25:05,510 --> 02:25:03,120
yeah it kind of looks like four toes but

3372
02:25:07,670 --> 02:25:05,520
and when we follow the the tracks there

3373
02:25:09,429 --> 02:25:07,680
were actually five toes okay so maybe

3374
02:25:11,910 --> 02:25:09,439
one of the toes aren't up but the cool

3375
02:25:14,150 --> 02:25:11,920
thing about this track is this came from

3376
02:25:16,630 --> 02:25:14,160
a different research area with dr york

3377
02:25:18,389 --> 02:25:16,640
and i there had been a fire in the area

3378
02:25:20,790 --> 02:25:18,399
the mountains were shut down for two

3379
02:25:23,030 --> 02:25:20,800
months we were the first ones back up

3380
02:25:24,790 --> 02:25:23,040
there there was a set of juvenile tracks

3381
02:25:28,150 --> 02:25:24,800
coming up a logging road through the

3382
02:25:30,309 --> 02:25:28,160
base camp area down another logging road

3383
02:25:32,710 --> 02:25:30,319
and then there were cougar tracks that

3384
02:25:35,429 --> 02:25:32,720
looked like they were following the

3385
02:25:37,910 --> 02:25:35,439
juvenile um

3386
02:25:39,910 --> 02:25:37,920
bigfoot tracks and a couple of the

3387
02:25:43,429 --> 02:25:39,920
cougar tracks were on top of the

3388
02:25:44,950 --> 02:25:43,439
juvenile tracks and dr york said

3389
02:25:47,190 --> 02:25:44,960
you know looks like

3390
02:25:49,750 --> 02:25:47,200
this cougar is stalking this juvenile

3391
02:25:53,510 --> 02:25:49,760
sasquatch well we came back two weeks

3392
02:25:55,349 --> 02:25:53,520
later to the same area and the juvenile

3393
02:25:57,190 --> 02:25:55,359
tracks were coming back the other way up

3394
02:25:58,870 --> 02:25:57,200
the logging road through the base camp

3395
02:26:01,110 --> 02:25:58,880
and back down the logging road where it

3396
02:26:03,110 --> 02:26:01,120
came from two weeks earlier and the

3397
02:26:05,030 --> 02:26:03,120
cougar tracks were right with it again

3398
02:26:06,710 --> 02:26:05,040
and then dr york started laughing and he

3399
02:26:09,670 --> 02:26:06,720
said i'll be damned

3400
02:26:12,230 --> 02:26:09,680
these two have a symbiotic relationship

3401
02:26:14,790 --> 02:26:12,240
and i'm going what do you mean he said

3402
02:26:17,110 --> 02:26:14,800
don't you have cats i said yeah yeah he

3403
02:26:19,670 --> 02:26:17,120
said he's got a cougar yeah this

3404
02:26:22,230 --> 02:26:19,680
cougar's not stalking him for two weeks

3405
02:26:24,309 --> 02:26:22,240
this cougar is hanging out with him

3406
02:26:26,309 --> 02:26:24,319
now let's uh

3407
02:26:28,389 --> 02:26:26,319
of course i mean that

3408
02:26:29,670 --> 02:26:28,399
why not right okay

3409
02:26:32,630 --> 02:26:29,680
the uh

3410
02:26:35,830 --> 02:26:32,640
uh the two tennis shoes obviously that's

3411
02:26:37,910 --> 02:26:35,840
gonna be your big foot that is inside of

3412
02:26:39,990 --> 02:26:37,920
that tennis shoe and that's cynthia's

3413
02:26:41,110 --> 02:26:40,000
cynthia's tiny foot

3414
02:26:43,190 --> 02:26:41,120
and then

3415
02:26:44,870 --> 02:26:43,200
we've got a we've got a big foot in the

3416
02:26:46,150 --> 02:26:44,880
middle of these two feet

3417
02:26:51,990 --> 02:26:46,160
yes

3418
02:26:54,230 --> 02:26:52,000
similar to this i'll send these to you

3419
02:26:56,150 --> 02:26:54,240
um of of

3420
02:26:59,270 --> 02:26:56,160
i didn't make the discovery

3421
02:27:01,190 --> 02:26:59,280
um some young friends of mine did and

3422
02:27:04,469 --> 02:27:01,200
i'll send that to you later

3423
02:27:08,950 --> 02:27:04,479
um what are we seeing here in this shot

3424
02:27:11,349 --> 02:27:08,960
this was at our um base or our fire pit

3425
02:27:13,510 --> 02:27:11,359
area in our backyard

3426
02:27:16,070 --> 02:27:13,520
and um cynthia

3427
02:27:18,790 --> 02:27:16,080
and i had found the track and just

3428
02:27:20,870 --> 02:27:18,800
decided to take a quick picture

3429
02:27:23,270 --> 02:27:20,880
to send off to everybody

3430
02:27:24,230 --> 02:27:23,280
to um you know it's just our way of

3431
02:27:25,830 --> 02:27:24,240
showing

3432
02:27:27,830 --> 02:27:25,840
they're still around they're still

3433
02:27:29,670 --> 02:27:27,840
active they're still here you know come

3434
02:27:33,110 --> 02:27:29,680
check it out you'll notice that the

3435
02:27:35,270 --> 02:27:33,120
track isn't much bigger than my size 16

3436
02:27:38,230 --> 02:27:35,280
shoe the yellow shoe there in the

3437
02:27:40,070 --> 02:27:38,240
picture that's an adolescent track well

3438
02:27:41,670 --> 02:27:40,080
look at the size that's right look at

3439
02:27:42,469 --> 02:27:41,680
the size of the heel

3440
02:27:45,990 --> 02:27:42,479
now

3441
02:27:48,150 --> 02:27:46,000
um how deep uh two questions you can

3442
02:27:52,230 --> 02:27:48,160
answer both at the same time

3443
02:27:53,990 --> 02:27:52,240
how deep is that heel section and two

3444
02:27:57,030 --> 02:27:54,000
you're a big guy you're almost seven

3445
02:27:58,389 --> 02:27:57,040
foot can you make the same dent in the

3446
02:28:00,070 --> 02:27:58,399
ground

3447
02:28:02,150 --> 02:28:00,080
that this heel did

3448
02:28:04,309 --> 02:28:02,160
the heel was down probably about half an

3449
02:28:06,710 --> 02:28:04,319
inch and the answer is no i could not

3450
02:28:09,110 --> 02:28:06,720
dent the ground the way this ground was

3451
02:28:09,990 --> 02:28:09,120
dented yeah and how do we explain that

3452
02:28:13,590 --> 02:28:10,000
away

3453
02:28:15,270 --> 02:28:13,600
because i'm i'm i'm six foot i'm over

3454
02:28:18,550 --> 02:28:15,280
200 pounds

3455
02:28:20,630 --> 02:28:18,560
and i have walked next to bigfoot tracks

3456
02:28:22,150 --> 02:28:20,640
that are clearly you know an inch and a

3457
02:28:25,270 --> 02:28:22,160
half two inches deep in the in the

3458
02:28:28,790 --> 02:28:25,280
ground and i'm not making a dent

3459
02:28:31,670 --> 02:28:28,800
i'm not even disturbing the dirt right

3460
02:28:33,510 --> 02:28:31,680
that scares the crap out of me

3461
02:28:35,910 --> 02:28:33,520
it scares the crap out of you

3462
02:28:38,469 --> 02:28:35,920
um well i mean that's it's something

3463
02:28:40,950 --> 02:28:38,479
very big is able to make an impression

3464
02:28:43,750 --> 02:28:40,960
when i can't

3465
02:28:46,790 --> 02:28:43,760
yeah they are the adults especially are

3466
02:28:49,590 --> 02:28:46,800
certainly much bigger than we are and

3467
02:28:52,309 --> 02:28:49,600
definitely outweigh us if they choose to

3468
02:28:55,510 --> 02:28:52,319
slow down their vibrational frequency

3469
02:28:57,030 --> 02:28:55,520
and become more dense

3470
02:28:59,270 --> 02:28:57,040
in in their

3471
02:29:01,830 --> 02:28:59,280
you know physical appearance

3472
02:29:05,190 --> 02:29:01,840
so they can go anywhere from a ball of

3473
02:29:06,469 --> 02:29:05,200
light an orb all the way to full

3474
02:29:08,550 --> 02:29:06,479
physical

3475
02:29:11,030 --> 02:29:08,560
you can see them and they

3476
02:29:12,950 --> 02:29:11,040
you know make indentations on the ground

3477
02:29:16,230 --> 02:29:12,960
or any kind of

3478
02:29:19,349 --> 02:29:16,240
change in between or in full physical

3479
02:29:21,670 --> 02:29:19,359
form which again sounds completely loony

3480
02:29:24,710 --> 02:29:21,680
looney tunes i used to

3481
02:29:27,910 --> 02:29:24,720
to slice and dice those people online

3482
02:29:29,990 --> 02:29:27,920
years ago and i have apologized to many

3483
02:29:32,630 --> 02:29:30,000
people others have turned around and

3484
02:29:34,790 --> 02:29:32,640
treated me the same way until they

3485
02:29:36,870 --> 02:29:34,800
started experiencing what i was talking

3486
02:29:39,270 --> 02:29:36,880
about and they have extended their

3487
02:29:41,110 --> 02:29:39,280
apologies to me

3488
02:29:43,349 --> 02:29:41,120
as it should be as it should be let's

3489
02:29:45,510 --> 02:29:43,359
take our last break right here our guest

3490
02:29:48,150 --> 02:29:45,520
tonight dr matthew johnson

3491
02:29:50,550 --> 02:29:48,160
and uh that's it i haven't even invited

3492
02:29:52,790 --> 02:29:50,560
him for overtime because he doesn't have

3493
02:29:54,870 --> 02:29:52,800
a choice we got to keep going

3494
02:29:56,309 --> 02:29:54,880
stay right there we'll be right back

3495
02:29:58,150 --> 02:29:56,319
after this short break this is fade to

3496
02:30:02,580 --> 02:29:58,160
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3497
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3498
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3588
02:35:16,389 --> 02:35:14,070
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3589
02:35:18,870 --> 02:35:16,399
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3590
02:35:20,710 --> 02:35:18,880
johnson is with us

3591
02:35:23,590 --> 02:35:20,720
heading into overtime you saw this

3592
02:35:24,950 --> 02:35:23,600
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02:35:27,349 --> 02:35:24,960
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it is overtime i know you ever say i

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02:35:30,630 --> 02:35:28,479
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3596
02:35:32,710 --> 02:35:30,640
time if the show can't end yet i wonder

3597
02:35:34,550 --> 02:35:32,720
if they're getting we're doing overtime

3598
02:35:35,910 --> 02:35:34,560
all right all right

3599
02:35:38,389 --> 02:35:35,920
but

3600
02:35:40,309 --> 02:35:38,399
i want to talk about bigfoot and ufos

3601
02:35:42,309 --> 02:35:40,319
and usually

3602
02:35:44,550 --> 02:35:42,319
before we get to that

3603
02:35:46,550 --> 02:35:44,560
usually this part of the show matthew

3604
02:35:51,750 --> 02:35:46,560
and i've got something in my throat hang

3605
02:35:55,190 --> 02:35:53,520
rivermooncoffee.com

3606
02:35:57,590 --> 02:35:55,200
[Laughter]

3607
02:36:00,389 --> 02:35:57,600
all right is um

3608
02:36:03,110 --> 02:36:00,399
usually over time i like to relax

3609
02:36:05,510 --> 02:36:03,120
uh stretch out a little bit and and and

3610
02:36:06,230 --> 02:36:05,520
have some fun and and loosen up a little

3611
02:36:09,830 --> 02:36:06,240
bit

3612
02:36:12,309 --> 02:36:09,840
um and we may do that with bigfoot ufos

3613
02:36:14,710 --> 02:36:12,319
but before we get to the fun part

3614
02:36:17,190 --> 02:36:14,720
i i want to circle back and and talk

3615
02:36:20,830 --> 02:36:17,200
about trills briefly

3616
02:36:23,750 --> 02:36:20,840
and what that acronym means uh to your

3617
02:36:26,710 --> 02:36:23,760
research what is trills and for

3618
02:36:29,349 --> 02:36:26,720
everybody that's t-r-i-l-s

3619
02:36:31,590 --> 02:36:29,359
what's trills matthew

3620
02:36:34,469 --> 02:36:31,600
there's an alternative scientific

3621
02:36:37,590 --> 02:36:34,479
approach to proving the existence of the

3622
02:36:40,230 --> 02:36:37,600
bigfoot forest people or the gen nu old

3623
02:36:42,230 --> 02:36:40,240
school talks you know when they mention

3624
02:36:44,870 --> 02:36:42,240
scientific research they're always

3625
02:36:47,349 --> 02:36:44,880
talking about dna it all boils down to

3626
02:36:50,070 --> 02:36:47,359
dna they want to collect the dna they

3627
02:36:52,070 --> 02:36:50,080
want a dead body they want the dna

3628
02:36:54,870 --> 02:36:52,080
that's how they view science well that's

3629
02:36:56,070 --> 02:36:54,880
not the only way to prove the existence

3630
02:36:58,389 --> 02:36:56,080
of something

3631
02:37:00,630 --> 02:36:58,399
trills proves the existence of the

3632
02:37:03,670 --> 02:37:00,640
bigfoot forest people they're genu

3633
02:37:05,270 --> 02:37:03,680
without having to have a dead body or

3634
02:37:06,550 --> 02:37:05,280
dna

3635
02:37:08,870 --> 02:37:06,560
essentially

3636
02:37:12,469 --> 02:37:08,880
t stands for targeting your research

3637
02:37:14,790 --> 02:37:12,479
subject okay r is develop a relationship

3638
02:37:17,349 --> 02:37:14,800
with your research subject

3639
02:37:19,510 --> 02:37:17,359
i is for interact with your research

3640
02:37:26,710 --> 02:37:19,520
research subject

3641
02:37:27,830 --> 02:37:26,720
s is share the information you have

3642
02:37:30,309 --> 02:37:27,840
learned

3643
02:37:33,349 --> 02:37:30,319
okay you and i have been interacting

3644
02:37:36,070 --> 02:37:33,359
with each other i know you exist based

3645
02:37:38,389 --> 02:37:36,080
on our interactions you know i exist

3646
02:37:40,790 --> 02:37:38,399
based on our interactions we don't have

3647
02:37:42,389 --> 02:37:40,800
to have each other's dna to prove our

3648
02:37:44,389 --> 02:37:42,399
existence

3649
02:37:47,349 --> 02:37:44,399
we are forming a

3650
02:37:51,429 --> 02:37:47,359
online relationship interaction which

3651
02:37:54,950 --> 02:37:51,439
proves our existence without any blood

3652
02:37:57,030 --> 02:37:54,960
any dna there are more scientific ways

3653
02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:57,040
to prove their existence besides having

3654
02:38:02,309 --> 02:38:01,040
to have a dead body or dna so

3655
02:38:05,030 --> 02:38:02,319
trills

3656
02:38:07,590 --> 02:38:05,040
is a future show

3657
02:38:09,830 --> 02:38:07,600
i mean just just on that we could do a

3658
02:38:11,830 --> 02:38:09,840
segment on how to target we could do a

3659
02:38:14,230 --> 02:38:11,840
segment on how to build a relationship

3660
02:38:16,710 --> 02:38:14,240
we can do a segment on how to interact

3661
02:38:18,630 --> 02:38:16,720
we could do a segment on how to

3662
02:38:19,910 --> 02:38:18,640
establish what you have learned we could

3663
02:38:22,790 --> 02:38:19,920
do an uh

3664
02:38:25,190 --> 02:38:22,800
an entire segment on how to share

3665
02:38:28,389 --> 02:38:25,200
what you have collected with others

3666
02:38:29,429 --> 02:38:28,399
that's an entire show in of itself

3667
02:38:31,030 --> 02:38:29,439
correct

3668
02:38:34,150 --> 02:38:31,040
and speaking of show can i throw out a

3669
02:38:37,190 --> 02:38:34,160
little teaser yeah it should tease

3670
02:38:38,070 --> 02:38:37,200
okay so there are multiple bigfoot shows

3671
02:38:40,309 --> 02:38:38,080
out

3672
02:38:43,030 --> 02:38:40,319
there they've been in existence for a

3673
02:38:44,870 --> 02:38:43,040
long time uh finding bigfoot that never

3674
02:38:47,190 --> 02:38:44,880
finds bigfoot

3675
02:38:48,790 --> 02:38:47,200
expedition bigfoot that still is not

3676
02:38:50,070 --> 02:38:48,800
finding bigfoot

3677
02:38:52,230 --> 02:38:50,080
um

3678
02:38:54,630 --> 02:38:52,240
survivor bigfoot

3679
02:38:56,309 --> 02:38:54,640
not finding bigfoot but what i will say

3680
02:38:58,309 --> 02:38:56,319
is they've had some interactions just

3681
02:39:00,790 --> 02:38:58,319
like i did

3682
02:39:03,030 --> 02:39:00,800
for the first 10 years and what i'm also

3683
02:39:06,070 --> 02:39:03,040
going to say is all three shows have had

3684
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:06,080
some paranormal interactions

3685
02:39:11,349 --> 02:39:09,520
that they don't know how to interpret

3686
02:39:14,230 --> 02:39:11,359
they don't know what to do with it they

3687
02:39:17,590 --> 02:39:14,240
kind of turn and run away from it

3688
02:39:21,190 --> 02:39:17,600
okay so here's a little teaser

3689
02:39:25,750 --> 02:39:22,630
some people

3690
02:39:30,309 --> 02:39:25,760
who are strongly considering putting

3691
02:39:32,950 --> 02:39:30,319
together an alternative tv show

3692
02:39:35,670 --> 02:39:32,960
is it going to be called trails

3693
02:39:38,469 --> 02:39:35,680
let's let's just say

3694
02:39:40,710 --> 02:39:38,479
we won't be trying to find bigfoot

3695
02:39:43,510 --> 02:39:40,720
because we have found bigfoot we won't

3696
02:39:46,389 --> 02:39:43,520
be going on expeditions because

3697
02:39:49,830 --> 02:39:46,399
they're in our backyard and we don't

3698
02:39:53,510 --> 02:39:49,840
have to survive because we're friends

3699
02:39:57,030 --> 02:39:53,520
and this alternative possibility

3700
02:39:58,710 --> 02:39:57,040
is going to boom blow everybody's minds

3701
02:40:01,190 --> 02:39:58,720
that's a show

3702
02:40:03,190 --> 02:40:01,200
a tv show about bigfoot unlike any other

3703
02:40:06,389 --> 02:40:03,200
tv show that exists

3704
02:40:08,469 --> 02:40:06,399
i would watch that show keep us posted

3705
02:40:10,950 --> 02:40:08,479
keep it we'll keep us posted

3706
02:40:12,070 --> 02:40:10,960
um now ufo okay

3707
02:40:14,790 --> 02:40:12,080
now

3708
02:40:17,670 --> 02:40:14,800
there are and

3709
02:40:20,389 --> 02:40:17,680
i i go back and i look at

3710
02:40:22,790 --> 02:40:20,399
a few pretty significant

3711
02:40:26,150 --> 02:40:22,800
events in ufology

3712
02:40:28,950 --> 02:40:26,160
that people lose sight of

3713
02:40:32,630 --> 02:40:28,960
and and then i look at some some

3714
02:40:34,870 --> 02:40:32,640
significant bigfoot cases in the past

3715
02:40:38,389 --> 02:40:34,880
that people have lost sight of the other

3716
02:40:39,670 --> 02:40:38,399
element to it which i think is obvious

3717
02:40:42,950 --> 02:40:39,680
i don't know

3718
02:40:46,950 --> 02:40:42,960
that that ufos and bigfoot seem to be

3719
02:40:49,429 --> 02:40:46,960
connected if we go to uh something uh

3720
02:40:52,790 --> 02:40:49,439
you know historically

3721
02:40:54,950 --> 02:40:52,800
uh significant like the outlook pass

3722
02:40:57,750 --> 02:40:54,960
the isle of pass i don't know if it was

3723
02:40:59,510 --> 02:40:57,760
bigfoot i don't know what killed those

3724
02:41:02,630 --> 02:40:59,520
hikers i don't know

3725
02:41:03,670 --> 02:41:02,640
i don't know what happened there

3726
02:41:05,110 --> 02:41:03,680
but

3727
02:41:07,269 --> 02:41:05,120
prior to

3728
02:41:10,710 --> 02:41:07,279
uh the two or three days leading up to

3729
02:41:14,630 --> 02:41:10,720
the incident of everybody dying

3730
02:41:18,070 --> 02:41:14,640
were ufo sightings in in the sky by

3731
02:41:20,150 --> 02:41:18,080
by the locals there and the military

3732
02:41:23,510 --> 02:41:20,160
and and nobody wants to make this

3733
02:41:25,030 --> 02:41:23,520
connection and i to me it's like obvious

3734
02:41:26,230 --> 02:41:25,040
now am i

3735
02:41:28,870 --> 02:41:26,240
jumping

3736
02:41:31,030 --> 02:41:28,880
way too far ahead here or is there a

3737
02:41:33,990 --> 02:41:31,040
connection i don't think you're jumping

3738
02:41:35,750 --> 02:41:34,000
too far ahead but i think what maybe you

3739
02:41:38,309 --> 02:41:35,760
and others out there

3740
02:41:40,389 --> 02:41:38,319
don't understand and once again i'll

3741
02:41:42,309 --> 02:41:40,399
bring it up is that there's a difference

3742
02:41:45,750 --> 02:41:42,319
between the tracon

3743
02:41:48,870 --> 02:41:45,760
who are in appearance similar to

3744
02:41:51,510 --> 02:41:48,880
the bigfoot forest people the jean knew

3745
02:41:55,429 --> 02:41:51,520
except they're a little smaller they're

3746
02:41:58,469 --> 02:41:55,439
uglier they're menacing they hate humans

3747
02:42:01,269 --> 02:41:58,479
and they the treycon who are in physical

3748
02:42:03,110 --> 02:42:01,279
flesh and blood form like you and me

3749
02:42:05,990 --> 02:42:03,120
they don't have the ability to

3750
02:42:09,190 --> 02:42:06,000
shape-shift in and out of orb form like

3751
02:42:12,630 --> 02:42:09,200
the jean-nude do they're not benevolent

3752
02:42:13,750 --> 02:42:12,640
like the jean-new are they're malevolent

3753
02:42:15,830 --> 02:42:13,760
okay

3754
02:42:20,230 --> 02:42:15,840
they're the ones who are associated with

3755
02:42:23,750 --> 02:42:20,240
ufos and they do the dirty business

3756
02:42:26,309 --> 02:42:23,760
of some of the alien species in ufos

3757
02:42:27,750 --> 02:42:26,319
like snatching humans snatching

3758
02:42:28,790 --> 02:42:27,760
livestock

3759
02:42:29,750 --> 02:42:28,800
and um

3760
02:42:31,750 --> 02:42:29,760
other

3761
02:42:35,510 --> 02:42:31,760
dirty deeds that they have them do but

3762
02:42:37,269 --> 02:42:35,520
that is the tracon that is not

3763
02:42:38,710 --> 02:42:37,279
the jean-new that is not the bigfoot

3764
02:42:41,590 --> 02:42:38,720
forest people

3765
02:42:42,950 --> 02:42:41,600
so what is what is okay all right i

3766
02:42:45,510 --> 02:42:42,960
understand

3767
02:42:46,790 --> 02:42:45,520
what you just said

3768
02:42:49,910 --> 02:42:46,800
but

3769
02:42:51,190 --> 02:42:49,920
what about the appearance or what is the

3770
02:42:53,750 --> 02:42:51,200
connection

3771
02:42:56,150 --> 02:42:53,760
ufo scene in the sky right everybody's

3772
02:42:59,110 --> 02:42:56,160
talking about that and then

3773
02:43:00,790 --> 02:42:59,120
later on there's a bigfoot sighting you

3774
02:43:03,750 --> 02:43:00,800
know on the same night

3775
02:43:05,190 --> 02:43:03,760
where a trait on sighting right okay a

3776
02:43:09,750 --> 02:43:05,200
treycon sighting

3777
02:43:13,030 --> 02:43:09,760
um and i was always assuming

3778
02:43:16,150 --> 02:43:13,040
bigfoot might be stepping off of a craft

3779
02:43:18,469 --> 02:43:16,160
tray con is stepping off a truck oh

3780
02:43:20,389 --> 02:43:18,479
so there is a okay okay let's stay right

3781
02:43:21,269 --> 02:43:20,399
there for a second

3782
02:43:23,269 --> 02:43:21,279
so

3783
02:43:26,230 --> 02:43:23,279
when

3784
02:43:27,990 --> 02:43:26,240
that is explain the connection then

3785
02:43:29,030 --> 02:43:28,000
i don't i don't want to i don't want to

3786
02:43:32,469 --> 02:43:29,040
answer

3787
02:43:34,710 --> 02:43:32,479
i don't want to put my ideas into this

3788
02:43:36,469 --> 02:43:34,720
but you just blow my mind okay let's

3789
02:43:37,670 --> 02:43:36,479
step back for a second what is the

3790
02:43:41,990 --> 02:43:37,680
connection

3791
02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:42,000
long time ago before we were on this

3792
02:43:48,870 --> 02:43:46,000
planet an alien species brought the they

3793
02:43:51,590 --> 02:43:48,880
um kidnapped the tracon from their world

3794
02:43:54,150 --> 02:43:51,600
and brought them to the earth as slave

3795
02:43:55,910 --> 02:43:54,160
labor to mine the earth for minerals

3796
02:43:58,070 --> 02:43:55,920
that they wanted when they got

3797
02:44:00,469 --> 02:43:58,080
everything that they wanted from our

3798
02:44:02,710 --> 02:44:00,479
planet they took off with their minerals

3799
02:44:04,710 --> 02:44:02,720
and left the dracon behind

3800
02:44:05,910 --> 02:44:04,720
okay they didn't take them back to their

3801
02:44:07,030 --> 02:44:05,920
home world

3802
02:44:10,550 --> 02:44:07,040
and

3803
02:44:12,870 --> 02:44:10,560
then in order to continue to get them to

3804
02:44:15,349 --> 02:44:12,880
do their dirty work they will come back

3805
02:44:18,309 --> 02:44:15,359
and offer them food and drink from their

3806
02:44:20,710 --> 02:44:18,319
home world to get them to cooperate with

3807
02:44:22,950 --> 02:44:20,720
them to do their bidding

3808
02:44:25,590 --> 02:44:22,960
and again they look like bigfoot forest

3809
02:44:28,309 --> 02:44:25,600
people kind of but they're uglier more

3810
02:44:31,110 --> 02:44:28,319
menacing and and much

3811
02:44:32,710 --> 02:44:31,120
more malevolent malevolent they'll kill

3812
02:44:34,950 --> 02:44:32,720
people

3813
02:44:37,429 --> 02:44:34,960
where the genu don't have anything to do

3814
02:44:40,790 --> 02:44:37,439
with ufos and zorth is very adamant

3815
02:44:42,550 --> 02:44:40,800
about how they have absolutely nothing

3816
02:44:43,990 --> 02:44:42,560
to do with ufos

3817
02:44:47,349 --> 02:44:44,000
so

3818
02:44:51,510 --> 02:44:47,359
that would help explain

3819
02:44:54,389 --> 02:44:51,520
the uh the appearance and disappearance

3820
02:44:56,950 --> 02:44:54,399
of the tracon bigfoot

3821
02:44:59,590 --> 02:44:56,960
sure but they also hide deep in the

3822
02:45:01,510 --> 02:44:59,600
wilderness to avoid the human race

3823
02:45:03,349 --> 02:45:01,520
and there's a whole lot of wilderness to

3824
02:45:04,710 --> 02:45:03,359
hide in

3825
02:45:06,950 --> 02:45:04,720
the um

3826
02:45:09,110 --> 02:45:06,960
the researchers out there that have made

3827
02:45:10,870 --> 02:45:09,120
this tie

3828
02:45:13,190 --> 02:45:10,880
um

3829
02:45:16,870 --> 02:45:13,200
you know a bigfoot in ufos

3830
02:45:20,870 --> 02:45:16,880
that they've made this this connection

3831
02:45:23,349 --> 02:45:20,880
but the connection isn't with the genu

3832
02:45:25,269 --> 02:45:23,359
the connection is with a physical

3833
02:45:27,190 --> 02:45:25,279
biological

3834
02:45:28,389 --> 02:45:27,200
actual

3835
02:45:30,230 --> 02:45:28,399
species

3836
02:45:33,030 --> 02:45:30,240
yes that looks like a bigfoot but it's

3837
02:45:35,429 --> 02:45:33,040
not a bigfoot their their problem is

3838
02:45:37,429 --> 02:45:35,439
they think i'm crazy they don't think i

3839
02:45:40,630 --> 02:45:37,439
know what i'm talking about there's no

3840
02:45:42,790 --> 02:45:40,640
such thing as a bigfoot expert well yeah

3841
02:45:45,429 --> 02:45:42,800
there is there's no such thing as a

3842
02:45:47,990 --> 02:45:45,439
bigfoot expert until

3843
02:45:48,790 --> 02:45:48,000
there's a bigfoot expert right right

3844
02:45:51,830 --> 02:45:48,800
right

3845
02:45:53,990 --> 02:45:51,840
let me jump in you moved your camera and

3846
02:45:57,750 --> 02:45:54,000
i got a humming oh now the humming is

3847
02:46:01,349 --> 02:45:57,760
gone okay forget it so so anyway

3848
02:46:04,230 --> 02:46:01,359
they don't know that there's the treycon

3849
02:46:06,070 --> 02:46:04,240
and the bigfoot forest people aka

3850
02:46:07,670 --> 02:46:06,080
jean-nu they don't know there's two

3851
02:46:11,110 --> 02:46:07,680
different species

3852
02:46:13,590 --> 02:46:11,120
they think it's all one

3853
02:46:15,910 --> 02:46:13,600
and they don't buy into orbs and

3854
02:46:18,469 --> 02:46:15,920
shape-shifting and shimmering images and

3855
02:46:21,429 --> 02:46:18,479
telepathy so they think it's all just

3856
02:46:23,750 --> 02:46:21,439
one species a dumb giant mountain ape

3857
02:46:25,910 --> 02:46:23,760
a descendant of gigantopithecus and

3858
02:46:27,990 --> 02:46:25,920
somehow these dumb giant mountain apes

3859
02:46:29,750 --> 02:46:28,000
are able to interact with intelligent

3860
02:46:31,110 --> 02:46:29,760
species that fly craft around the

3861
02:46:33,590 --> 02:46:31,120
universe

3862
02:46:35,429 --> 02:46:33,600
now and i i propose to you

3863
02:46:37,269 --> 02:46:35,439
either i'm right and they're wrong or

3864
02:46:41,269 --> 02:46:37,279
they're right and i'm wrong but i don't

3865
02:46:43,429 --> 02:46:41,279
think i'm wrong okay um speaking of orbs

3866
02:46:44,870 --> 02:46:43,439
there's an image here

3867
02:46:48,550 --> 02:46:44,880
uh that

3868
02:46:50,790 --> 02:46:48,560
uh didn't have an explanation tied to it

3869
02:46:53,110 --> 02:46:50,800
but i see orbs

3870
02:46:54,469 --> 02:46:53,120
including one on the back of somebody's

3871
02:46:56,710 --> 02:46:54,479
neck

3872
02:46:59,030 --> 02:46:56,720
except when we're walking down the path

3873
02:47:02,070 --> 02:46:59,040
can i post this picture real quick

3874
02:47:04,389 --> 02:47:02,080
yeah okay i'm gonna post this up because

3875
02:47:08,070 --> 02:47:04,399
when i saw this i was blown away this is

3876
02:47:09,670 --> 02:47:08,080
not your typical orb pick everybody

3877
02:47:11,910 --> 02:47:09,680
this is uh

3878
02:47:13,030 --> 02:47:11,920
something different

3879
02:47:15,190 --> 02:47:13,040
and

3880
02:47:17,269 --> 02:47:15,200
i think it's phenomenal okay the

3881
02:47:22,550 --> 02:47:17,279
picture's up and posted

3882
02:47:25,110 --> 02:47:22,560
matthew there are one two three four

3883
02:47:26,389 --> 02:47:25,120
five six seven eight orbs in this

3884
02:47:30,070 --> 02:47:26,399
picture

3885
02:47:33,910 --> 02:47:30,080
um going in a straight line and

3886
02:47:35,510 --> 02:47:33,920
i it looks to me like one two three four

3887
02:47:39,670 --> 02:47:35,520
five of them

3888
02:47:46,710 --> 02:47:42,710
they are following us as we are walking

3889
02:47:49,590 --> 02:47:46,720
down the path on our previous property

3890
02:47:53,269 --> 02:47:49,600
and um when people come over to our

3891
02:47:55,750 --> 02:47:53,279
property for weekend um camping events

3892
02:47:58,389 --> 02:47:55,760
um people see orbs people see them in

3893
02:48:00,870 --> 02:47:58,399
their shimmering images people

3894
02:48:03,269 --> 02:48:00,880
are touched on while they're in they're

3895
02:48:05,429 --> 02:48:03,279
caught sleeping some people i never

3896
02:48:06,309 --> 02:48:05,439
guarantee people healing but we've had

3897
02:48:08,950 --> 02:48:06,319
people

3898
02:48:11,830 --> 02:48:08,960
healed from cancer

3899
02:48:13,670 --> 02:48:11,840
heart disease eye disease we had one

3900
02:48:15,590 --> 02:48:13,680
lady who had three strokes and was

3901
02:48:17,670 --> 02:48:15,600
crippled on half her body and she was

3902
02:48:20,389 --> 02:48:17,680
completely healed that was witnessed by

3903
02:48:22,469 --> 02:48:20,399
45 people she was jumping up and down

3904
02:48:24,550 --> 02:48:22,479
running up and down the hillside it was

3905
02:48:27,750 --> 02:48:24,560
incredible miraculous

3906
02:48:31,030 --> 02:48:27,760
so they're capable of doing all kinds of

3907
02:48:33,590 --> 02:48:31,040
things it's amazing you know this is a a

3908
02:48:34,790 --> 02:48:33,600
very remarkable photograph

3909
02:48:42,830 --> 02:48:34,800
and

3910
02:48:44,870 --> 02:48:42,840
i've only seen one

3911
02:48:46,950 --> 02:48:44,880
orb um uh

3912
02:48:49,030 --> 02:48:46,960
physically in front of me

3913
02:48:51,190 --> 02:48:49,040
okay but it was it was it was also in

3914
02:48:54,389 --> 02:48:51,200
washington by the way

3915
02:48:57,670 --> 02:48:54,399
um but this they are in a straight line

3916
02:48:59,190 --> 02:48:57,680
except for the ones uh that uh

3917
02:49:01,910 --> 02:48:59,200
the one on the back of the neck and the

3918
02:49:03,830 --> 02:49:01,920
two bright ones down on i don't know

3919
02:49:05,670 --> 02:49:03,840
who's dressed in gray

3920
02:49:07,910 --> 02:49:05,680
but it's almost touching his feet but

3921
02:49:10,389 --> 02:49:07,920
these are in a perfect straight line and

3922
02:49:12,710 --> 02:49:10,399
they're also the same

3923
02:49:13,990 --> 02:49:12,720
the same color are is each one of these

3924
02:49:15,590 --> 02:49:14,000
a genu

3925
02:49:19,990 --> 02:49:15,600
yep

3926
02:49:21,670 --> 02:49:20,000
you should see our our our new home and

3927
02:49:24,790 --> 02:49:21,680
our new property

3928
02:49:26,389 --> 02:49:24,800
i mean it is amped up i mean where the

3929
02:49:28,469 --> 02:49:26,399
pictures you're looking at now from our

3930
02:49:31,349 --> 02:49:28,479
previous property including them in

3931
02:49:33,590 --> 02:49:31,359
their physical form and tracks amazing

3932
02:49:34,870 --> 02:49:33,600
now where we are we haven't even been

3933
02:49:37,429 --> 02:49:34,880
there two weeks

3934
02:49:40,469 --> 02:49:37,439
and we've had them all over the property

3935
02:49:42,790 --> 02:49:40,479
the orbs the shimmering images uh

3936
02:49:45,349 --> 02:49:42,800
cynthia and i were sitting inside our

3937
02:49:47,349 --> 02:49:45,359
log home the other night watching tv and

3938
02:49:51,429 --> 02:49:47,359
one appeared in the corner

3939
02:49:54,630 --> 02:49:51,439
of our large lodge-like home huge shadow

3940
02:49:57,110 --> 02:49:54,640
at least 10-11 feet tall walking right

3941
02:50:00,389 --> 02:49:57,120
by including right in front of our tv

3942
02:50:01,910 --> 02:50:00,399
set got our attention really quick now

3943
02:50:04,150 --> 02:50:01,920
there is uh

3944
02:50:05,349 --> 02:50:04,160
one last picture i've got a lot of

3945
02:50:07,429 --> 02:50:05,359
pictures

3946
02:50:09,910 --> 02:50:07,439
we'll save those for another show but

3947
02:50:12,950 --> 02:50:09,920
there's another picture

3948
02:50:14,950 --> 02:50:12,960
i need i don't know what this is i kind

3949
02:50:16,790 --> 02:50:14,960
of think that i do

3950
02:50:18,870 --> 02:50:16,800
and it needs an explanation i'm gonna

3951
02:50:20,550 --> 02:50:18,880
post this right now and i'm gonna call

3952
02:50:22,389 --> 02:50:20,560
this one

3953
02:50:24,790 --> 02:50:22,399
uh lift

3954
02:50:26,230 --> 02:50:24,800
uh no truck gate

3955
02:50:28,309 --> 02:50:26,240
okay so

3956
02:50:30,790 --> 02:50:28,319
uh yeah yeah yeah you know what i but

3957
02:50:33,349 --> 02:50:30,800
but let me get it posted first okay okay

3958
02:50:34,230 --> 02:50:33,359
let me just let me get it posted

3959
02:50:35,349 --> 02:50:34,240
and

3960
02:50:36,790 --> 02:50:35,359
again

3961
02:50:40,150 --> 02:50:36,800
i'm only

3962
02:50:43,030 --> 02:50:40,160
taking a guess what this is a picture of

3963
02:50:45,110 --> 02:50:43,040
and now i've got it up okay everybody

3964
02:50:47,030 --> 02:50:45,120
hashtag f2b it is right there it's

3965
02:50:50,630 --> 02:50:47,040
called truck gate

3966
02:50:52,870 --> 02:50:50,640
and you've got a a bottle of uh

3967
02:50:55,269 --> 02:50:52,880
a can of something

3968
02:50:57,429 --> 02:50:55,279
bug spray or spray paint whatever

3969
02:50:59,030 --> 02:50:57,439
uh for size you've also got a tape

3970
02:51:01,190 --> 02:50:59,040
measure laid out

3971
02:51:03,670 --> 02:51:01,200
on this object

3972
02:51:05,990 --> 02:51:03,680
what am i what am i looking at here

3973
02:51:08,469 --> 02:51:06,000
you are okay remember i told you they

3974
02:51:10,550 --> 02:51:08,479
try to leave me evidence right to prove

3975
02:51:13,750 --> 02:51:10,560
that i'm actually interacting with them

3976
02:51:17,590 --> 02:51:13,760
right from foot cast to audio recordings

3977
02:51:19,990 --> 02:51:17,600
to pictures to videos right and so we

3978
02:51:22,070 --> 02:51:20,000
when we first got to soya

3979
02:51:23,429 --> 02:51:22,080
when they led me to soya there was a

3980
02:51:25,269 --> 02:51:23,439
fresh snap

3981
02:51:26,150 --> 02:51:25,279
broken branch in the middle of the base

3982
02:51:30,950 --> 02:51:26,160
camp

3983
02:51:33,349 --> 02:51:30,960
hear noise up the logging road so we

3984
02:51:34,790 --> 02:51:33,359
walk up the logging road and there's

3985
02:51:37,269 --> 02:51:34,800
this fresh

3986
02:51:41,990 --> 02:51:37,279
pile of steaming crap

3987
02:51:43,590 --> 02:51:42,000
that's three feet long in between two 29

3988
02:51:47,670 --> 02:51:43,600
inch tracks

3989
02:51:50,469 --> 02:51:47,680
source tracks and he he mind spoke with

3990
02:51:51,990 --> 02:51:50,479
me and said here's here's some evidence

3991
02:51:54,150 --> 02:51:52,000
for you

3992
02:51:57,429 --> 02:51:54,160
it's a three-foot turd that can is a

3993
02:52:00,309 --> 02:51:57,439
shellac i dried out the turd and then i

3994
02:52:03,190 --> 02:52:00,319
i sprayed it with shellac to preserve it

3995
02:52:06,070 --> 02:52:03,200
was it in a straight line like this

3996
02:52:08,550 --> 02:52:06,080
it was not as straight as i have it

3997
02:52:12,230 --> 02:52:08,560
there in the in on the tailgate but it

3998
02:52:14,469 --> 02:52:12,240
was almost there i mean it wasn't

3999
02:52:16,070 --> 02:52:14,479
i have it in the display case that was

4000
02:52:18,469 --> 02:52:16,080
my next

4001
02:52:20,630 --> 02:52:18,479
you are telepathic i was gonna say tell

4002
02:52:23,750 --> 02:52:20,640
me you've got this framed

4003
02:52:26,710 --> 02:52:23,760
i i have it in a display case next to a

4004
02:52:30,309 --> 02:52:26,720
pile of black bear poop for comparison

4005
02:52:32,550 --> 02:52:30,319
this is crazy this is three foot long

4006
02:52:34,230 --> 02:52:32,560
big foot johnny poop

4007
02:52:35,269 --> 02:52:34,240
it could have been a squirrel if we're

4008
02:52:37,190 --> 02:52:35,279
going to be a

4009
02:52:39,429 --> 02:52:37,200
squirrel could have been a squirrel i

4010
02:52:40,389 --> 02:52:39,439
mean they eat a lot of nuts right yes

4011
02:52:45,750 --> 02:52:40,399
they do

4012
02:52:48,790 --> 02:52:45,760
this is incredible um when when was uh

4013
02:52:52,070 --> 02:52:48,800
uh when was this poop discovery made

4014
02:52:54,070 --> 02:52:52,080
early 2016. have you had another five

4015
02:52:57,269 --> 02:52:54,080
years ago five and a half years ago have

4016
02:52:58,469 --> 02:52:57,279
do you have another poop specimen to

4017
02:53:02,150 --> 02:52:58,479
not not

4018
02:53:05,110 --> 02:53:02,160
not bear but another genu

4019
02:53:08,389 --> 02:53:05,120
to compare come across stuff in the past

4020
02:53:13,630 --> 02:53:08,399
but nothing as impressive as that and

4021
02:53:17,269 --> 02:53:13,640
that was once again found in between two

4022
02:53:20,389 --> 02:53:17,279
29-inch footprints are you more are you

4023
02:53:23,590 --> 02:53:20,399
working with a laboratory that would um

4024
02:53:25,990 --> 02:53:23,600
say analyze uh this poop so here's the

4025
02:53:28,230 --> 02:53:26,000
deal i i was in southern oregon for a

4026
02:53:31,590 --> 02:53:28,240
long time doing research and we

4027
02:53:34,550 --> 02:53:31,600
contacted the um forensic lab for for

4028
02:53:37,510 --> 02:53:34,560
animals which was in ashland oregon and

4029
02:53:39,990 --> 02:53:37,520
they told us unless it's fresh

4030
02:53:41,510 --> 02:53:40,000
and steaming hot there's not much they

4031
02:53:43,510 --> 02:53:41,520
can do with it

4032
02:53:45,830 --> 02:53:43,520
dried poop they told us don't bring us

4033
02:53:48,070 --> 02:53:45,840
any dried poop we can't get anything out

4034
02:53:49,830 --> 02:53:48,080
of dried poop it's got to be fresh

4035
02:53:50,630 --> 02:53:49,840
steaming hot you got to run it right

4036
02:53:51,830 --> 02:53:50,640
here

4037
02:53:54,150 --> 02:53:51,840
and

4038
02:53:55,750 --> 02:53:54,160
so do you still have a relationship with

4039
02:53:57,110 --> 02:53:55,760
them if you did

4040
02:53:59,750 --> 02:53:57,120
i can't believe we're talking about

4041
02:54:02,309 --> 02:53:59,760
steaming piles of poop

4042
02:54:04,070 --> 02:54:02,319
but if you did

4043
02:54:06,070 --> 02:54:04,080
i mean if it happened again would you be

4044
02:54:08,070 --> 02:54:06,080
able to

4045
02:54:09,990 --> 02:54:08,080
live in washington so i'd have to run

4046
02:54:13,190 --> 02:54:10,000
i'd have to drive eight hours to get

4047
02:54:13,910 --> 02:54:13,200
down there right so you know bottom line

4048
02:54:16,550 --> 02:54:13,920
is

4049
02:54:18,710 --> 02:54:16,560
no i'm not going to do that to be quite

4050
02:54:20,630 --> 02:54:18,720
honest because i have way too much

4051
02:54:22,550 --> 02:54:20,640
evidence that

4052
02:54:24,950 --> 02:54:22,560
poop is

4053
02:54:26,550 --> 02:54:24,960
beyond what i want to play with here but

4054
02:54:28,150 --> 02:54:26,560
i gotta tell you this is

4055
02:54:29,030 --> 02:54:28,160
it's one of the best pictures i've ever

4056
02:54:32,070 --> 02:54:29,040
seen

4057
02:54:35,190 --> 02:54:32,080
and and i i kind of knew that that's

4058
02:54:37,590 --> 02:54:35,200
what that was but i needed to hear it

4059
02:54:40,070 --> 02:54:37,600
from you that's an incredible photograph

4060
02:54:43,269 --> 02:54:40,080
there's a replica of that three-foot

4061
02:54:45,030 --> 02:54:43,279
turd in a bigfoot museum in georgia run

4062
02:54:46,150 --> 02:54:45,040
by david bakura

4063
02:54:48,870 --> 02:54:46,160
bakara

4064
02:54:51,510 --> 02:54:48,880
so if anyone wants to see the replica go

4065
02:54:54,309 --> 02:54:51,520
check out david bacara's bigfoot museum

4066
02:54:59,750 --> 02:54:56,950
i get lots of emails or

4067
02:55:02,550 --> 02:54:59,760
facebook pms i saw the replica i saw the

4068
02:55:03,830 --> 02:55:02,560
three-foot turd that thing's huge yeah

4069
02:55:05,910 --> 02:55:03,840
it is but

4070
02:55:08,469 --> 02:55:05,920
more impressive is actually being able

4071
02:55:11,590 --> 02:55:08,479
to interact with them see them people

4072
02:55:14,309 --> 02:55:11,600
getting healed listening to them sing

4073
02:55:16,950 --> 02:55:14,319
and and we host every summer

4074
02:55:19,750 --> 02:55:16,960
uh weekend camping events where people

4075
02:55:23,670 --> 02:55:19,760
can come to our property and spend two

4076
02:55:26,070 --> 02:55:23,680
or three nights and have interactions

4077
02:55:27,510 --> 02:55:26,080
and that's called science if you can

4078
02:55:29,429 --> 02:55:27,520
replicate

4079
02:55:31,670 --> 02:55:29,439
what i'm talking about and what i'm

4080
02:55:34,790 --> 02:55:31,680
talking about has been replicated like

4081
02:55:36,950 --> 02:55:34,800
over in england you have gordon dodds

4082
02:55:39,429 --> 02:55:36,960
you have paul glover

4083
02:55:41,750 --> 02:55:39,439
you have karen johnson over there

4084
02:55:43,670 --> 02:55:41,760
you have you know people in england who

4085
02:55:45,910 --> 02:55:43,680
are replicating what i've been teaching

4086
02:55:48,469 --> 02:55:45,920
and getting the same experiences the

4087
02:55:50,950 --> 02:55:48,479
orbs the shimmering images the mind

4088
02:55:53,110 --> 02:55:50,960
speak there's people in australia doing

4089
02:55:56,389 --> 02:55:53,120
the same thing canada doing the same

4090
02:55:59,269 --> 02:55:56,399
thing so if they're able to go around in

4091
02:56:01,190 --> 02:55:59,279
their various countries or 50 states in

4092
02:56:02,950 --> 02:56:01,200
our own country and replicate what i'm

4093
02:56:05,910 --> 02:56:02,960
teaching

4094
02:56:07,510 --> 02:56:05,920
that that's science and that's proof and

4095
02:56:11,429 --> 02:56:07,520
that's trills

4096
02:56:13,510 --> 02:56:11,439
right there so um i look forward to

4097
02:56:15,590 --> 02:56:13,520
coming out and hanging out with uh

4098
02:56:18,230 --> 02:56:15,600
everybody up there and going through the

4099
02:56:20,630 --> 02:56:18,240
experience i mean it uh

4100
02:56:23,190 --> 02:56:20,640
it if nothing else is just a good time

4101
02:56:25,590 --> 02:56:23,200
with people that have open minds

4102
02:56:28,070 --> 02:56:25,600
and and want to uh discuss and share

4103
02:56:30,710 --> 02:56:28,080
information if anything else happens

4104
02:56:32,550 --> 02:56:30,720
beyond that that's the bonus and i would

4105
02:56:34,389 --> 02:56:32,560
i would really enjoy coming up there and

4106
02:56:36,550 --> 02:56:34,399
hanging out with everybody

4107
02:56:39,190 --> 02:56:36,560
cynthia and i would love to have you

4108
02:56:40,870 --> 02:56:39,200
thank you so much and and it's really

4109
02:56:41,750 --> 02:56:40,880
quick i've got about a minute left with

4110
02:56:44,469 --> 02:56:41,760
you

4111
02:56:46,309 --> 02:56:44,479
what's next is there another book i know

4112
02:56:50,870 --> 02:56:46,319
you just mentioned the possibility of a

4113
02:56:54,309 --> 02:56:50,880
tv series uh but what's next for you

4114
02:56:57,030 --> 02:56:54,319
next is just continuing to educate the

4115
02:57:00,070 --> 02:56:57,040
world in any and every way possible

4116
02:57:02,550 --> 02:57:00,080
through the social media through these

4117
02:57:04,950 --> 02:57:02,560
hosting these weekend camping events to

4118
02:57:07,590 --> 02:57:04,960
the possibility of an alternative tv

4119
02:57:10,630 --> 02:57:07,600
show that reveals the real truth about

4120
02:57:13,830 --> 02:57:10,640
who the bigfoot are um and and then you

4121
02:57:16,469 --> 02:57:13,840
know listening to zorth because he opens

4122
02:57:19,750 --> 02:57:16,479
up these doors and these opportunities

4123
02:57:20,630 --> 02:57:19,760
and so i just have to keep listening and

4124
02:57:22,950 --> 02:57:20,640
being

4125
02:57:27,110 --> 02:57:22,960
willing to do my role

4126
02:57:29,990 --> 02:57:27,120
my job as the 13 the ambassador

4127
02:57:31,830 --> 02:57:30,000
you know so i'm i'm just there i'm ready

4128
02:57:34,630 --> 02:57:31,840
to go whatever he wants me to do i'll do

4129
02:57:36,870 --> 02:57:34,640
it matthew thank you so much absolutely

4130
02:57:39,910 --> 02:57:36,880
fascinating perfect show tonight this is

4131
02:57:43,110 --> 02:57:39,920
what i like to do which is learn and

4132
02:57:45,030 --> 02:57:43,120
share see i'm i'm i'm i'm two-thirds of

4133
02:57:47,750 --> 02:57:45,040
the way through the trills just doing

4134
02:57:49,990 --> 02:57:47,760
the show there we go yes you are yeah

4135
02:57:52,469 --> 02:57:50,000
thank you so much matthew uh be safe up

4136
02:57:54,710 --> 02:57:52,479
there enjoy your new home and we'll

4137
02:57:56,950 --> 02:57:54,720
circle back and do a show again as soon

4138
02:57:58,230 --> 02:57:56,960
as we can thank you so much thank you

4139
02:57:59,510 --> 02:57:58,240
jimmy

4140
02:58:01,590 --> 02:57:59,520
genu

4141
02:58:04,670 --> 02:58:01,600
and all of the links for it are up in

4142
02:58:06,710 --> 02:58:04,680
our social media and of course over at

4143
02:58:08,469 --> 02:58:06,720
jimmychurchradio.com want to remind

4144
02:58:10,150 --> 02:58:08,479
everybody what's going on tomorrow night

4145
02:58:13,349 --> 02:58:10,160
it is thursday

4146
02:58:16,230 --> 02:58:13,359
it is fader night with open lines all

4147
02:58:20,630 --> 02:58:16,240
night long and uh really quick uh taking

4148
02:58:24,070 --> 02:58:20,640
friday off taking friday off and then uh

4149
02:58:26,309 --> 02:58:24,080
saturday night which is september 11th

4150
02:58:28,710 --> 02:58:26,319
is the premiere of our film

4151
02:58:30,870 --> 02:58:28,720
extraordinary the revelations

4152
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at the pasadena international film

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festival 6 p.m

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red carpet i'll see everybody out there

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and then we're doing a q a

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after the film shows fade to black is

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produced by hilton j palmer renee dennis

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and kevin announcers are steve harter

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02:58:49,429 --> 02:58:46,560
gene vettel mark d kovar webmaster is

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drew the geek music doug aldridge intro

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02:58:54,389 --> 02:58:52,399
spaceboy spaceboymusic.com

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fade to black is produced by kjcr for

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the game changer network and syndication

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is kgra the

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planet this broadcast owned copyrighted

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2021 by fade to black in the game

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02:59:07,429 --> 02:59:05,439
changer network inc it cannot be

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re-broadcast downloaded copied or used

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anywhere in the known universe without

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written permission from fade to black or

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the game changer network i'm your host

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jimmy church until tomorrow night fader

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night open lines all night long i want

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everybody to be safe it's time to fade

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to black